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My Ride Today Little Disappointed

Old 09-10-11, 01:33 PM
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My Ride Today Little Disappointed

Im try to get up to wear i can keep an average of 20 mph but heres my ride today avg was about 15mph and took about 2 1/2 hours. looking to my enter some races next year but i really think i need to do better then this to be able to keep up let me know where you think im at cuz i feel like im not even close. Thanks

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Bummer. I did 43 miles between yesterday and this morning at 19.3 avg. mph.
Theres always a next time.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine
Bummer. I did 43 miles between yesterday and this morning at 19.3 avg. mph.
Theres always a next time.
thats 2 different trips tho if i count yesterdays ride i did 53 miles but i didnt have my computer so im not sure my average for yesterdays ride i think it was better then this tho. Im just gonna have to start roiding lol
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1. How long have you been riding, whats your height and weight?
2. What kind of bike are you riding?

Avg speed doesn't mean a whole lot unless you are riding in an environment where you have zero traffic and traffic lights. I see you are in NH so perhaps you do. When I go ride in Central park, I can average around 18mph for 4 laps of the park (24 miles) In other words, there are so many variables. If you have a bike computer that gives you stats based on the time you spend actually moving, you want to go by that average not the average of your total ride. also weather conditions, wind, air temp make a big difference
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Join your local club and start riding with them.

You will learn how to ride on a group and will also be able to gauge how 'strong' you are. You may also learn from more experienced riders about fit and training.

This is much better than talking average speed and other silliness.

Do it now and thank me later.
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Originally Posted by motobecane69
1. How long have you been riding, whats your height and weight?
2. What kind of bike are you riding?

Avg speed doesn't mean a whole lot unless you are riding in an environment where you have zero traffic and traffic lights. I see you are in NH so perhaps you do. When I go ride in Central park, I can average around 18mph for 4 laps of the park (24 miles) In other words, there are so many variables. If you have a bike computer that gives you stats based on the time you spend actually moving, you want to go by that average not the average of your total ride. also weather conditions, wind, air temp make a big difference
this is my first summer road biking im 5' 10" 175 lbs and i ride a specialized tarmac elite apex

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Join your local club and start riding with them.

You will learn how to ride on a group and will also be able to gauge how 'strong' you are. You may also learn from more experienced riders about fit and training.

This is much better than talking average speed and other silliness.

Do it now and thank me later.
I plan on doing this but the only group ride i know about are on weds and i have class so i will be able to go next summer
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Originally Posted by bermanfb28
this is my first summer road biking im 5' 10" 175 lbs and i ride a specialized tarmac elite apex



I plan on doing this but the only group ride i know about are on weds and i have class so i will be able to go next summer
datlas gave you the right answer. If you're not riding outside all winter, you'll need a trainer to maintain some fitness. Rollers would be good too.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
datlas gave you the right answer. If you're not riding outside all winter, you'll need a trainer to maintain some fitness. Rollers would be good too.
I know datlas gave the right answer i was just curious how im doing sence i havent been able to get out to do group rides but im hoping to do it this week my class is moved to thursday so i should be able to. I am looking to get a trainer for the winter also any recomendations?
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what was your average moving speed?

Having to stop for even 30 seconds at a stop light every few miles will drastically diminish your average speed over a ride. I rode 42 miles this morning. On mile 39 I was keeping an 18.6 average, and then I entered downtown and got home 3 miles later and my final average was 18.1....... so in just three miles it dropped me 1/2 mile an hour, and I promise I was not just lolligaging.
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Originally Posted by Vicelord
what was your average moving speed?

Having to stop for even 30 seconds at a stop light every few miles will drastically diminish your average speed over a ride. I rode 42 miles this morning. On mile 39 I was keeping an 18.6 average, and then I entered downtown and got home 3 miles later and my final average was 18.1....... so in just three miles it dropped me 1/2 mile an hour, and I promise I was not just lolligaging.
This is true. I did 50 miles today and my moving average was 18. I'm sure it would have been at least 19, but the group hit so many stop lights.
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Racing is not about average speed unless your doing a Time Trial. It is more about repeated very hard efforts out of corners and climbing a short hill very quickly and then recovering fast enough to handle the next hard effort.

You really should look into joining a race team for training rides.
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Originally Posted by bermanfb28
I know datlas gave the right answer i was just curious how im doing sence i havent been able to get out to do group rides but im hoping to do it this week my class is moved to thursday so i should be able to. I am looking to get a trainer for the winter also any recomendations?
Ignore the average speed babble. It's somewhat useful for comparing your own efforts over time, but it isn't much use for comparing to other riders or deciding if you should race. The only way to find out how you compare to other racers is by riding with them. The only way to find out how well you can do in a race is to race.
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Disappointment? Nothing can say disappointment like having only 60 gear inches and trying to keep with a guy with over 80. I was like rpm limited to 17 mph when spinning like crazy. Lost a massive amount of distance on the climb and flats, but got him good on the way down
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Originally Posted by bermanfb28
Im try to get up to wear i can keep an average of 20 mph but heres my ride today avg was about 15mph and took about 2 1/2 hours. looking to my enter some races next year but i really think i need to do better then this to be able to keep up let me know where you think im at cuz i feel like im not even close. Thanks

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/705820
What app are you using to map this? It's horrible IMHO. Lots of apps will calculate average moving speed and overall average speed. MapMyTracks is a great app (Outfront for iPhone). Try Biologic BikeBrain or MapMyRide too.

Here's an example of my tracks

https://www.mapmytracks.com/explore/activity/257276

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15mph is not all that slow for 70'/mile.

It's about what I average on a zone 2 ride with around 75 feet per mile, example: https://app.strava.com/rides/1423415

Zone 2 is not painful at all for me. I am a mediocre cat 3. However, there are definitely cat 5s out there who would be suffering a lot more at the same pace/grade/power/whatever.

So don't be afraid to try racing. If you learn how to do it properly, you won't need to expend much energy anyway since you will be drafting much of the time.

(by the way, strava's power estimates are way off for me, so don't even bother looking at them. the actual power levels are considerably higher)
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Originally Posted by tcwayne
What app are you using to map this? It's horrible IMHO. Lots of apps will calculate average moving speed and overall average speed. MapMyTracks is a great app (Outfront for iPhone). Try Biologic BikeBrain or MapMyRide too.

Here's an example of my tracks

https://www.mapmytracks.com/explore/activity/257276

i have to draw the map cuz i cannot upload my computer
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man, if you race, they're going to crush your head.
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Originally Posted by bermanfb28
i have to draw the map cuz i cannot upload my computer
Gotcha. Sorry I thought that was an upload from an App
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Originally Posted by tcwayne
What app are you using to map this? It's horrible IMHO. Lots of apps will calculate average moving speed and overall average speed. MapMyTracks is a great app (Outfront for iPhone). Try Biologic BikeBrain or MapMyRide too.

Here's an example of my tracks

https://www.mapmytracks.com/explore/activity/257276
Well since it's been brought up, yeah RidewithGPS blows. Strava works with iPhone.
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Originally Posted by pdedes
man, if you race, they're going to crush your head.
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Well since it's been brought up, yeah RidewithGPS blows. Strava works with iPhone.
yea i got one of the wick cool old flip phones maybe one day ill get an iphone
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That looks like a nice ride. It's pretty flat where I live so I'm jealous.

When you go to the group ride ask around about other times. The club may only have one large scheduled ride per week but typically smaller groups will meet for less formal rides and you may be able to get in on one of those. Also, check with the closest bike shops to see if they have anything going on. Most shop rides aren't chock full of racers but at least you will get some experience riding with other people and at their pace so come next spring you will be a little ahead of the game.
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You'd have to be a very strong rider to go out and average 20mph on that route solo.
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You'd have to be a very strong rider to go out and average 20mph on that route solo.
I agree. I just looked at the route and I am guessing that I would maybe average 17 or 18MPH on it. Not 20.

Anyway like I said earlier, look for some organized rides in your area. I am sure there are some bike clubs, some may be more "race" oriented and others may be more "recreational" oriented but that's the next step.

That and do some interval training if you don't mind the occasional puke.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by canam73
That looks like a nice ride. It's pretty flat where I live so I'm jealous.

When you go to the group ride ask around about other times. The club may only have one large scheduled ride per week but typically smaller groups will meet for less formal rides and you may be able to get in on one of those. Also, check with the closest bike shops to see if they have anything going on. Most shop rides aren't chock full of racers but at least you will get some experience riding with other people and at their pace so come next spring you will be a little ahead of the game.
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I agree. I just looked at the route and I am guessing that I would maybe average 17 or 18MPH on it. Not 20.

Anyway like I said earlier, look for some organized rides in your area. I am sure there are some bike clubs, some may be more "race" oriented and others may be more "recreational" oriented but that's the next step.

That and do some interval training if you don't mind the occasional puke.

Good luck!

yea there is a lot of hills around here
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