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Old 09-13-11, 09:44 AM
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Getting a little irritated

I purchased a GF Ion Pro in the spring as my first road bike. While I love it and riding, there is a small issue I have to tackle. On the carbon seatpost there was a warning sticker that the LBS didn't remove when they sized me on the bike and set the seat height. The sticker and now just the glue from it is causing the seatpost to lower on each ride I take. I want to get rid of the glue but don't know what glue remover to use and I don't want to damage the CF. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-13-11, 09:46 AM
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I would venture to say Simple Green. I use it to spot clean my bike, and so does my LBS. Might take a little more elbow grease than Goo Gone, but that **** is really toxic.
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Old 09-13-11, 09:49 AM
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soap, water, elbow grease.

And put some carbon fiber assembly paste on it when you put it back in.
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Old 09-13-11, 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I have Simple Green at home and I will hit up the LBS for carbon fibre assemby paste.
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I'd use this just to be safe:
https://www.simplegreen.com/products_extreme_motor.php

$7 at your local autoshop.
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They clamped over a sticker on the seatpost?
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Old 09-13-11, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantoj View Post
They clamped over a sticker on the seatpost?
Yes, I was truly impressed. I removed the sticker remains after I noticed that the post was sinking into the tube and now because of the residue, it keeps happening.
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Old 09-13-11, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ********** View Post
I'd use this just to be safe:
https://www.simplegreen.com/products_extreme_motor.php

$7 at your local autoshop.
thanks for the lead, I will see if I can find a bottle.
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Old 09-13-11, 01:28 PM
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Wd-40.
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Wd-40.
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Works on most tape and sticker glue residues. Spray, let soak for a while, wipe of with a clean rag. Repeat if necessary.
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The Ion Pro is a sweet looking bike. By the time I wanted to get one they ran out at the distribution centers.
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I would look for another good quality clamp too just in case man, and add carbon fiber paste too, that helps a lot.
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Old 09-13-11, 06:01 PM
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Eucalyptus Oil will work too. Wipe it on, let it sit for a while, then rub it away. Reapply as needed. Then use warm water and a cloth to removed any residue.
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FWIW, hair spray on the seatpost will work until you can get the carbon assy paste.
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I suggest that, in addition to the assembly paste (a good idea), you use a torque wrench to tighten the clamp to reduce the possibility of damaging the post.
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
I would look for another good quality clamp too just in case man
I strongly second this advice . . . pick up a Salsa seat clamp and it will be one less thing to worry about.
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Originally Posted by wkg View Post
The Ion Pro is a sweet looking bike. By the time I wanted to get one they ran out at the distribution centers.
I managed to get the last one at the shop I was at. They had heavily discounted it which helped. I was going for a Trek 2.1 but did a bit of a comparision and decided that the Ion Pro was the bike I wanted.
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Originally Posted by Pug View Post
I strongly second this advice . . . pick up a Salsa seat clamp and it will be one less thing to worry about.
Thanks, I will check those out and get an extra clamp. I have been tightening the current seat clamp with my 4mm wrench but after a couple of rides you can see that the post has sunk again.

I've checked the site info about the bike and it doesn't tell me the size of seat post or clamp I may need. Does anyone know or know how I can measure this?

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Originally Posted by Ionpro View Post
I want to get rid of the glue but don't know what glue remover to use and I don't want to damage the CF. Any suggestions?
I use lighter fluid to remove sticky glue remains from guitars, bikes, furniture, whatever. It will melt the sticky residue on contact, can be wiped away with a paper towel and leaves nothing behind. I can't count how many thousands of stickers and sticker residue I've removed from vintage guitars and furniture this way.
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Originally Posted by GP View Post
Wd-40.
+1

Works great!
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Originally Posted by Ionpro View Post
Thanks, I will check those out and get an extra clamp. I have been tightening the current seat clamp with my 4mm wrench but after a couple of rides you can see that the post has sunk again.

I've checked the site info about the bike and it doesn't tell me the size of seat post or clamp I may need. Does anyone know or know how I can measure this?
You can use a measuring caliper.

Either that or most well outfitted LBS's have a set of cylinders that increase in width along the length of the cylinder with labeling that tells the width. So you drop it into the seat tube and where it stops is the width of the seat tube. These are good because you need to be within a tenth of a millimeter and sometimes it's hard to measure perfectly across the diameter with a caliper.

Edit: for size of the clamp, however you may need to measure the outside diameter of the seat tube, for this you would use a caliper measuring device. Your LBS will know for sure though so probably go talk to them. Also they should be able to order you the clamp once they get the size right and that would save you on shipping.
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Originally Posted by wkg View Post
You can use a measuring caliper.

Either that or most well outfitted LBS's have a set of cylinders that increase in width along the length of the cylinder with labeling that tells the width. So you drop it into the seat tube and where it stops is the width of the seat tube. These are good because you need to be within a tenth of a millimeter and sometimes it's hard to measure perfectly across the diameter with a caliper.

Edit: for size of the clamp, however you may need to measure the outside diameter of the seat tube, for this you would use a caliper measuring device. Your LBS will know for sure though so probably go talk to them. Also they should be able to order you the clamp once they get the size right and that would save you on shipping.
I do have a caliper measuring tool. I will use that tonight and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Ionpro View Post
Thanks, I will check those out and get an extra clamp. I have been tightening the current seat clamp with my 4mm wrench but after a couple of rides you can see that the post has sunk again.

I've checked the site info about the bike and it doesn't tell me the size of seat post or clamp I may need. Does anyone know or know how I can measure this?
I'm suspicious of this. A seat post shouldn't move if it and the clamp are sized correctly. A little glue residue shouldn't matter. In fact, some people grease seatposts before installing to prevent corrosion-bonding.

Unless you are way under-torqueing the clamp, I'd suspect a wrong sized seat post or clamp. Or, maybe the seat-post clamp bolt is stripped and not holding. Or something OTHER than a little glue residue providing lubrication for the seat-post.

FWIW, the carbon assembly paste isn't magic, it's just a *very* slippery grease (I know!) that functions as a carrier for a little bit of grit. If you can't get the current set-up to stay in place after a thorough cleaning and degreasing, and using proper torque, then you need to look at the sizes of things and to check the clamp out.
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my seat-post clamp says 6-7Nm, so 4Nm seems insufficient.
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Old 09-14-11, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyBoyAz View Post
my seat-post clamp says 6-7Nm, so 4Nm seems insufficient.
I think he meant that he was using his 4mm wrench, not 4 n/m of torque. To the OP, the clamp probably isn't the problem. I would get some carbon assembly paste and try that before I would get another clamp. My BMC has a post that is made for the frame and will sink if I don't put some paste on it. It does need to be reapplied every so often since it can get washed away.
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