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Old 09-14-11, 08:29 PM
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A question about a bike from bikes direct.

Hey everyone, I was just looking at bikes at bikes direct and I think I may have found an upgrade, but I want to see what you guys think. It is a Dawes Lightning 1500, and it has BOTH drop and aero bars. Shimano Sora front and a carbon fork. I like the idea of having both drop bar and aero bars because when I am cruising on flat, I want to sit where the aero bars would be, but I can't. My Raleigh Technium is a great ride for the while, but I may want to upgrade to the Dawes...thoughts?
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Old 09-14-11, 08:36 PM
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Don't buy that bike?
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Old 09-14-11, 08:38 PM
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...any particular reason??
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I don't think Sora can ever really be considered an upgrade :|

BD bikes are fine, but be prepared to rip the bike apart and assemble it yourself. There's been a few horror stories floating around the SS/FG community if you don't check your BD bike.
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Old 09-15-11, 02:19 PM
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Well at the moment I ride a Raleigh Technium 460. The BD bike seemed pretty good to me.
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Old 09-15-11, 02:59 PM
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Unless you can get a significant upgrade from your Raleigh, just stick with what you have. Save more money.

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What kind of blue light special do you get your bike from to have sora be considered an upgrade!?!?

Keep saving up and get a bike that is really worth upgrading. Don't buy this bike
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Ok, that being the case, which would be recommended from that site??
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Old 09-15-11, 04:22 PM
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I'd like 1000 to be the limit. The motobecans look pretty nice.
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Do you have any local bike shops in your area?
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Breakaway bicycles.
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Go for it man. Enjoy!
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Pay them a visit and they should point in the right direction. You should have a few selections with your budget. The 2012 models are coming out soon and that should present a few bargains and/or discounts on older stock. At your price point, they would all be pretty much the same with the exception of fit and a few parts here and there.

Fit is most important and do no let them steer you into a bike that they are trying to just clear out.
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I also vote for a trip to your local bike shop. I suspect you will do better there, even if you have to pay a little bit more than the comparable bike from BD, you will get help with fitting/sizing, setup/assembly, maintenance tweaking, etc.
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Old 09-15-11, 04:53 PM
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Thanks guys! I was going to go that path if I didn't get much hype about the Dawes.

Alexvpaq, go for the BD bike??
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I bet alex meant "go for" the local bike shop in your area....but I can't really speak for him...
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If you have a grand in your hand you can get an ultegra equipped bike from bikes direct, otherwise spend 100 and mount clip on aerobars on your existing bike.
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https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...rvus_al_xi.htm
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...pro20_blue.htm

For $900 you can get a bike with Ultegra levers and derailleurs on BD...why get Sora?
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Old 09-15-11, 06:11 PM
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Well I would like to spend less than that if I can. Is it really that horrible of a bike??
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If you had 5 identical generic bike frames, steel, alloy, whatever, at five different prices tiers, the price difference is all in the components.
ROAD BIKE PARTS.

LEVEL 1 (entry level) SIS. SORA. SIS is not found on many road bikes now. However Sora is extremely popular. Many general commuting and entry level road bikes will be Sora equipped. Sora has STI levers and a very reliable gear and braking system, without being too pricey. Sora is a 8 speed group set and will come on bicyles ranged between $700-$1200.
LEVEL 2 Tiagra. Tiagra is the first road group set that is 9 speed. Tiagra is used a lot by road cyclists that want the reliablity and smoothness of 9 speed without the price tag.
LEVEL 3 105. This is a very commonly used component set a lot of top road bikes and training bikes will be equipped with 105 as it is exceptionally smooth in its changes and a very durable and reliable group set. 105 is also a 9 speed group set and its body predominantly made of alloy, thus making it very light. People who want good stuff that will last this is it.
LEVEL 4 ULTEGRA. Once again used a lot for top end racing. Not often used for training bikes, however it is durable enough to do so. Very smooth and very light on its actions. This means changes with little effort.
LEVEL 5 DURA ACE. The top of the line. Fairly expensive for the general rider.Dura Ace has been converted into a 10 speed system, with massive changes to the levers and crank sets, both so much smoother and lighter to use.
Thanks to Flemington Cycles in Melbourne for information in this article.

Hubs and wheels also figure in, as most brands (but not all) are going to follow the same hierarchy with wheels and tires.
You would'nt expect to find Sunlite hubs, steel rims and Duro tires on a Rivendell or Waterford anymore than you would expect to find Velocite wheels with Continental tires on a BigBox Mart bike.

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If you had 5 identical generic bike frames, steel, alloy, whatever, at five different prices tiers, the price difference is all in the components.
ROAD BIKE PARTS.

LEVEL 1 (entry level) SIS. SORA. SIS is not found on many road bikes now. However Sora is extremely popular. Many general commuting and entry level road bikes will be Sora equipped. Sora has STI levers and a very reliable gear and braking system, without being too pricey. Sora is a 8 speed group set and will come on bicyles ranged between $700-$1200.
LEVEL 2 Tiagra. Tiagra is the first road group set that is 9 speed. Tiagra is used a lot by road cyclists that want the reliablity and smoothness of 9 speed without the price tag.
LEVEL 3 105. This is a very commonly used component set a lot of top road bikes and training bikes will be equipped with 105 as it is exceptionally smooth in its changes and a very durable and reliable group set. 105 is also a 9 speed group set and its body predominantly made of alloy, thus making it very light. People who want good stuff that will last this is it.
LEVEL 4 ULTEGRA. Once again used a lot for top end racing. Not often used for training bikes, however it is durable enough to do so. Very smooth and very light on its actions. This means changes with little effort.
LEVEL 5 DURA ACE. The top of the line. Fairly expensive for the general rider.Dura Ace has been converted into a 10 speed system, with massive changes to the levers and crank sets, both so much smoother and lighter to use.
Thanks to Flemington Cycles in Melbourne for information in this article.
Old info. 105 through Dura Ace have been 10 speed for quite a while now....
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Well then I guess I am going to go with sora because that is within my price range.
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