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Recommend me a clincher wheelset

Old 09-15-11, 12:47 AM
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Recommend me a clincher wheelset

I'm about 6'2 and around 185lbs. I need something relatively light for the price range, stiff enough for my size/weight, and durable/easy to maintain... don't need anything too expensive either ~$700 tops for the set?

Mavic kyserium elite?

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Handmade Psimets. Will be lighter, sturdier and cheaper than comparable Mavics.
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These. They're the wheels I would've bought for my Look had I known they were available. I'm 6'2"/195, and would've gotten the 28/32 spoke build.
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I've been very happy with my Williams System 30's. They are a great all around wheel for around $500.
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Originally Posted by speedqing View Post
I'm about 6'2 and around 185lbs. I need something relatively light for the price range, stiff enough for my size/weight, and durable/easy to maintain... don't need anything too expensive either ~$700 tops for the set?

Mavic kyserium elite?
my new bike just showed up with ksyrium elites yesterday. they are very awesome and sharp looking without being over the top blingy. Even though they get good reviews for clydes, at 240lbs I'm just not mentally comfortable riding on them so I'm selling them. I did one brief 6 mile ride and they were nice. AS much as I hate hearing the overblown term "vertically compliant" i could feel that difference when i hit bumps but I didn't have any problems with them flexing into brake pads when I sprinted. they were very nice. My asking price is $500 for them if your interested you can pm me but I do have a couple of people from my local craigslist express interest.
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These. They're the wheels I would've bought for my Look had I known they were available. I'm 6'2"/195, and would've gotten the 28/32 spoke build.
While you're on the November site, check out the RFSC 38's. With the preorder you could get a set of Carbon clinchers for pretty close to your budget.
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I've never seen those November wheels before, are they popular here? How is the quality of build? Are these better than the other more well known production model wheels in this price range?

Those alloy clinchers are pretty lightweight for the price (don't think I would want the carbon ones since $700 is the very top of my limit). Would I need the Side of Beef option for the extra spokes for someone my weight? Pretty high spoke count for a wheel that light.

Never tried the system30, looks interesting though.
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There are two sets of Williams' System 30s, one for up to 190 lbs and one for well over 200 lbs. Check their website. I have two sets of Williams, the regular System 30s and the carbon system 50s. I also have the D.T. Swiss 1250. These wheels, In my opinion, are very similar. The Williams' wheels are the poor man's D.T. Swiss wheels. They roll very well and are bomb proof. The ceramic bearings in the Williams' wheels are first class. They roll better than some wheels that are big name and twice the price.
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Check out this weekends deal over at November

www.novemberwheels.com/frugalfridays

Serious deal for great wheels, comes with rim tape, tubes, tires and cassette of your choice already installed prior to shipping. And they're only 1520g from the SOB build with 28/32 spokes.

Gonna take some serious willpower to not buy these this weekend!
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I have been riding Boyd clinchers and they are great. Stiff, and responsive. The ones i ride are carbon, but similar things have always been said about their alloy options.
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Originally Posted by Padley View Post
Check out this weekends deal over at November

www.novemberwheels.com/frugalfridays

Serious deal for great wheels, comes with rim tape, tubes, tires and cassette of your choice already installed prior to shipping. And they're only 1520g from the SOB build with 28/32 spokes.

Gonna take some serious willpower to not buy these this weekend!

Those look good, any advantage running a 23mm tire on a 23mm wide rim? Would the wider rim fit on any racing style bike?
Do you think I would be OK with the standard build or would I need the higher spoke count?
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Here is what the site says about the 23mm rims. And I'm sure they'll fit any bike

Wider: The FSW 23 is based on Velocity's 23mm wide A23 rims. The rim is the same width as most racing tires, meaning you have less deformation in the sidewalls, better traction in corners, noticeably improved road feel and reduced rolling resistance. If those sound a lot like the qualities people tout about tubulars, it's because they are - the A23 is the clincher that rides like a tubie.

I'm sure at 185lbs you would be fine with the regular build of 24/28. I think the SOB build is for people that are over 185lbs.
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Originally Posted by Padley View Post
Here is what the site says about the 23mm rims. And I'm sure they'll fit any bike

Wider: The FSW 23 is based on Velocity's 23mm wide A23 rims. The rim is the same width as most racing tires, meaning you have less deformation in the sidewalls, better traction in corners, noticeably improved road feel and reduced rolling resistance. If those sound a lot like the qualities people tout about tubulars, it's because they are - the A23 is the clincher that rides like a tubie.

I'm sure at 185lbs you would be fine with the regular build of 24/28. I think the SOB build is for people that are over 185lbs.
A23 rims are nice, and I test rode custom wheels with those rims for a few thousand miles. I also agree that 24f/28r will be okay, but with thin spokes, the wheels will not feel as stiff as with thicker spokes. White Industries hubs would be nice with them.
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Am I the only one who 404's on that link?

FWIW, I am also 185 lbs-190 lbs (winter) and ride Forte Titans 16/20. No issues whatsoever.
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Oops, wrong address

https://www.novemberbicycles.com/frugalfridays
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try this link instead: https://www.novemberbicycles.com/frugalfridays
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Wow. That's a sweet deal with all the accoutrements. Out of my comfort zone price-wise, but a great deal.

EDIT: hmph. My first edit did not take. My Forte Titans (<1800g) with 16/20 spoke count are solid at 185 lbs.

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These https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/Wheels.asp,

Lifetime guarantee, custom built for your weight, riding style, and typical road conditions. Can't get better than that.
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I guess the extra spokes would make it more bomb proof but I'm not sure at 185lbs it would make enough of a difference to make it worth the extra weight and drag since the standard build is already 24/28.... unless the spokes are really fragile.. That's a pretty tempting deal.

If you were getting this deal, what cassette ratio would you choose with a 53/39 double crank? I was thinking 12-23 or 12-26.
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i currently ride a 10 speed 11-23 with 50-34 compact, really like it.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone View Post
i currently ride a 10 speed 11-23 with 50-34 compact, really like it.
It really depends on the rider. Since speedqing already has a standard crankset, a 12-27 would be similar to an 11-23 with a compact. With a 53T chainring, an 11T rear cog will not get used very often. I personally use a 12-27 with a standard crankset most of the time.
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Originally Posted by valleycyclist View Post
It really depends on the rider. Since speedqing already has a standard crankset, a 12-27 would be similar to an 11-23 with a compact. With a 53T chainring, an 11T rear cog will not get used very often. I personally use a 12-27 with a standard crankset most of the time.
Yeah the options on that site say 12-23, 12-26 or 12-28. I was thinking 26 would be better just because it would make it easier on big hills if I needed it. 28 would not be necessary and I'm thinking 23 might be a little tough with the 53/39. 12-26 would be pretty tight spacing right?

Are these rims just plain aluminum color with no decals and silver spokes? I wish they came in black, I'd probably pull the trigger right away.
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Mavic Krysium Elites are hard to beat for the price. I own the 2008 version and the 2011 version. Lite, and rugged and can be found for as little as $450 new for last yr's model.
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Originally Posted by speedqing View Post
Are these rims just plain aluminum color with no decals and silver spokes? I wish they came in black, I'd probably pull the trigger right away.
The rims are black with a silver machined sidewall. They're decaled, but subtle. The spokes are silver.

ValleyCyclist, we do offer them with White Industries hubs. It's not programmed as part of the Frugal Fridays deal but we'd extend the same deal if you want with the WI hubs - all the trimmings listed at $100 off. Email us on the site if you're interested.

On the spoke count question, some poor guy (maybe someone here?) just emailed the same question to Dave and got about 2000 words worth of pointed response. The general gist is not to be afraid of a higher spoke count. The weight "penalty" for going from 24/28 to 28/32 is 20 grams per wheel. Even at 28/32 the wheels are plenty light, and the added stiffness and durability is a nice bonus if you're a big guy or a big miler. I'm 165 lbs and I've been riding the FSW 23s with the SOB build for over a year. They won't hold you back, particularly with the right tire choice (which has a profound impact on how fast a wheelset feels, I think).
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I am pretty close to your size, a little bigger at 6', 190 lb. I did a lot of research before I bought new wheels, and had a budget of $1000 top whack, but hopefully less.

My advice - buy the Shimano RS80s from Excel Sports and do not look back. I did, have been riding them for about 12 months, and I love them.

For great quality big-name wheels, it is hard to beat the weight for the price - current price at Excel is $578 for wheels just over 1500g. Compare Kysrium Elites at over 1700g for over $600. They are "carbon fiber bonded to an aluminum rim" which means they are not full carbon, but they are still nice and stiff, with a really smooth ride, but are only half the thickness of normal aluminium, and you don't need special brake pads. They still look like carbon too, which is cool.

Ultegra steel freehubs take a real beating, and despite just 16 spokes front and 20 rear, they still support a good sized mid-weight like us (Shimano has no rated weight limit for them - Excel reckoned they would handle 220 at least), while being light and fast.

They are effectively Dura-Ace rims at a fraction of the price. Do it!
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