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Old 09-17-11, 03:00 PM
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When it works it works. I've had FAR better experiences on eBay vs. CList.
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What kind of riding does one generally use a 12-23? I use an 11-28 and that covers just about everything. I don't think I could do hills with a 23............
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A 10 spd DA 12-23 is the same as an 11-23 except it swaps the 11 for a 18 between the 17-19. If you can climb with the 23 you get an extra mid-range gear. Where I live (Wisconsin) a 23 is OK for me 99 percent of the time, but I rarely use the 11 even on descents, so I've been looking for a 9 spd 12-23 (which swaps the 11 for a 16) myself with no such luck as the OP!
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What kind of riding does one generally use a 12-23? I use an 11-28 and that covers just about everything. I don't think I could do hills with a 23............
I also use an 11/28. I'll flip it and make a contribution to my upgrade fund.
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What kind of riding does one generally use a 12-23? I use an 11-28 and that covers just about everything. I don't think I could do hills with a 23............
Flatter terrain. If you don't go really fast on steep downhills or really slow on steep climbs, it's nice to have the gearing spaced more closely to fine tune your cadence.
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Wow...SCORE!

I use a 12-23 and a 50/39 on one of my bikes. It's really flat around here and the tight cassette spacing and crank spacing. When I go ride in the hills, I use my other bike with a 50/34 and either a 12-26 or 12-27.

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The majority of the times when I score a very low price the seller suddenly does not have the item and sends the money back.
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criteriums

and when racing in the mid 80s in north texas, the typical setup for racing or training was 53/42 up front and a 13-18 six cog straight block in back. seriously. people nowadays kinda drop their jaws at this....but its the truth. a 'weenie' FW was a 13-14-15-17-19-21....
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Flatter terrain. If you don't go really fast on steep downhills or really slow on steep climbs, it's nice to have the gearing spaced more closely to fine tune your cadence.
This. Living in south FL, I have two "hills" living here on the coast...two bridges that top out at 70ft over the intercoastal waterway to get from the mainland to the barrier island and beach. The rest is painfully flat roads, stretching out under the blazing sun.
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Originally Posted by shrinkboy
criteriums

and when racing in the mid 80s in north texas, the typical setup for racing or training was 53/42 up front and a 13-18 six cog straight block in back. seriously. people nowadays kinda drop their jaws at this....but its the truth. a 'weenie' FW was a 13-14-15-17-19-21....
At a club ride last week, there was a former racer who was using a straight 12-19 cassette. It was a flat course...he totally smoked me.
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I love a 12-23 with my 39/53. Good, close gearing.

And I live in chester county PA with some hills, nothing too severe but I don't have any issues using the 39/23 as my "bailout" gear going up say a 10% climb that's a mile or two, with some sections up to 15%. Most of my clubmates use a 25 or 27 but I am ok with the 23.

Obviously if I lived in Colorado or other areas with real mountain climbs I would use a wider cassette or maybe even (gasp!) a compact.
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