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Wal-Mart Schwinn is CARBON!?!?!?!?!?!?

Old 09-18-11, 09:18 AM
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Wal-Mart Schwinn is CARBON!?!?!?!?!?!?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/700c-Mens-Schwinn-Road-Bike/5585800?findingMethod=Recommendation:wm:RecentlyViewedItems

I was looking at walmart.com for a wall mounted bike hanger, and I couldn't help but notice this! Carbon fiber on a Wal-Mart bike fork would surprise me, but a dual carbon stays bike shocked me.

I'm sure an all aluminum basic roadie from a real LBS that ran $100 would be ten times better. The note at the end of the description pretty much says so. "Please note: If you select Site to Store delivery, your bike(s) will not be assembled upon pickup."
But what are your thoughts on this?
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Old 09-18-11, 09:21 AM
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"A must-have for the road cyclist, the 700c Men's Schwinn Carbon Fiber-1000 Road Bike guarantees a smooth ride. This men's bicycle comes nicely equipped with an aluminum front triangle frame with a carbon rear triangle and carbon fork. "
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If it gets people on a bike...why not? We need more people on bikes.
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Old 09-18-11, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
If it gets people on a bike...why not? We need more people on bikes.
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I still believe Walmart is evil but it's a free county.
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They've had full crabon frames in the past, JSYK.
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Here's what I have to say about bikes like these, before the elitists jump in an slam anything from Walmart.

I bought my first road bike, from Canadian Tire(big box retail store), and it was a Schwinn RD700, and aluminium frame, with Sora components(shifters/derailluers). It was a little heavy at around 24lbs(chromo fork). But it rode absolutely beautifuly. I've actually made a couple of posts about its Sora shifters, shifting every bit as smoothly and crisply as my current Ultegra bike, with the Sora just being a TON louder.
Here's the kicker, I bought that bike in 2004, for $499 from Canadian tire, rode the bejesus out of it for 6 years, and sold it a month and a half ago(7 years later) for $350...

These bikes aren't the quite the same level as the "gmc denali" they sell.

For what its worth, it is a solid bike for the price. It will get you out there, get your butt on the road, and teach you a lot about the sport and caring for a bike. It was the best money I ever spent, because it got me into the sport when i didn't have $2000, just to figure out if I would like it.
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Walmart has price points which manufactures must meet in order to stock their products. You will never find a Cervelo S5 at Walmart. Cervelo would have to create it so cheap (and they won't) to do so.

You go to Walmart to buy toilet tissue and kleenex's not pro caliber road bikes.
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Old 09-18-11, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Davinci.. View Post
Here's what I have to say about bikes like these, before the elitists jump in an slam anything from Walmart.

I bought my first road bike, from Canadian Tire(big box retail store), and it was a Schwinn RD700, and aluminium frame, with Sora components(shifters/derailluers). It was a little heavy at around 24lbs(chromo fork). But it rode absolutely beautifuly. I've actually made a couple of posts about its Sora shifters, shifting every bit as smoothly and crisply as my current Ultegra bike, with the Sora just being a TON louder.
Here's the kicker, I bought that bike in 2004, for $499 from Canadian tire, rode the bejesus out of it for 6 years, and sold it a month and a half ago(7 years later) for $350...

These bikes aren't the quite the same level as the "gmc denali" they sell.

For what its worth, it is a solid bike for the price. It will get you out there, get your butt on the road, and teach you a lot about the sport and caring for a bike. It was the best money I ever spent, because it got me into the sport when i didn't have $2000, just to figure out if I would like it.
+1 I think my first bike was a tricycle from Sears and I've been riding, pretty much, ever since.
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Old 09-18-11, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IcySmooth52 View Post
https://www.walmart.com/ip/700c-Mens-Schwinn-Road-Bike/5585800?findingMethod=Recommendation:wm:RecentlyViewedItems

I was looking at walmart.com for a wall mounted bike hanger, and I couldn't help but notice this! Carbon fiber on a Wal-Mart bike fork would surprise me, but a dual carbon stays bike shocked me.

I'm sure an all aluminum basic roadie from a real LBS that ran $100 would be ten times better. The note at the end of the description pretty much says so. "Please note: If you select Site to Store delivery, your bike(s) will not be assembled upon pickup."
But what are your thoughts on this?
why would you think this? is there some reason for you to believe that because it's a walmart schwinn that it's not a real schwinn???? my bikes direct aluminum bike with carbon fork and seat stays rode great and wasn't expensive.
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Old 09-18-11, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
why would you think this? is there some reason for you to believe that because it's a walmart schwinn that it's not a real schwinn???? my bikes direct aluminum bike with carbon fork and seat stays rode great and wasn't expensive.
I am not making an anti-capitalist rant at all, but the fact is that Wal-Mart has name-brand companies commission extra-cheap models made just for wal-mart, and not sold anywhere else.
https://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/...n_snapper.html
The story above is about lawnmowers (and how Snapper turned down Wal-Mart's business) but it mentions a few other brands that have done the same thing.
ANY name-brand you buy in Wal-mart (of ANY item) is suspect; they do this with EVERYTHING they can. Wal-mart always wants to have the lowest price, no matter what.

In the case of an item that also has independent shops selling it (such as bicycles) usually what the dealers insist the manufacturer do is limit Wal-Mart's highest quality level to one beneath the lowest quality level that the private shops can get. So what that means is, if you buy a $300 Schwinn at a real bike shop, and then buy a $300 Schwinn at Wal-mart, the wal-mart item will appear to give you a better deal, but in reality has a much cheaper quality level.
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Tech is trickling down. Maybe, in time, that shiny turd of an S5 will be selling on Amazon for 200 bucks, next to it's brethren, the Huffy Power Climber and the Roadmaster Cliff Jumper.
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Wonder if it has carbon stays or if it is carbon covered aluminum like their "carbon bikes".
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Wonder if it has carbon stays or if it is carbon covered aluminum like their "carbon bikes".
I wonder the same thing about my BSO, Marin Mill Valley, purchased from a big box store, REI. I know the fork crown is alloy because the black paint chipped exposing metal. The carbon weave looking stuff begins below the uni-crown, on the fork legs. The steer tube is steel.
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If it gets people riding, and it's not so crappy that it makes people hate riding, there isn't really a problem with it.

What really makes Walmart evil is how they treat their suppliers, especially produce. They negotiate down to the lowest prices the supplier can manage, and then find ways to avoid paying as much of the agreed price as they can.

I've read stories of farmers doing heavy overtime shifts to get harvests in by Walmart's short notice deadline, the truck showing up several days late after the produce has had a chance sit in a pile and rot for a bit, loading it all up with the assurance that they will be paid full price, then getting a check for a percentage of the agreed price for "poor-qualify product". Which Walmart sells anyway.
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Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
I wonder the same thing about my BSO, Marin Mill Valley, purchased from a big box store, REI. I know the fork crown is alloy because the black paint chipped exposing metal. The carbon weave looking stuff begins below the uni-crown, on the fork legs. The steer tube is steel.
That's pretty common for low to mid-range forks. They aren't full carbon, just the fork arms which are bonded to an alloy crown and dropouts.
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Originally Posted by qmsdc15 View Post
I wonder the same thing about my BSO, Marin Mill Valley, purchased from a big box store, REI. I know the fork crown is alloy because the black paint chipped exposing metal. The carbon weave looking stuff begins below the uni-crown, on the fork legs. The steer tube is steel.
That is a frequent design. A carbon fork is usually just the blades. That's why a full carbon fork is always sold as a +
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that bike looks better than most peoples good bike on here.
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... carbon fiber at walmart = ash cloth wrapping like paper mache...
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Originally Posted by Doug5150 View Post
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In the case of an item that also has independent shops selling it (such as bicycles) usually what the dealers insist the manufacturer do is limit Wal-Mart's highest quality level to one beneath the lowest quality level that the private shops can get. So what that means is, if you buy a $300 Schwinn at a real bike shop, and then buy a $300 Schwinn at Wal-mart, the wal-mart item will appear to give you a better deal, but in reality has a much cheaper quality level.
You can't buy a new Schwinn from a bike shop for $300... I looked, and all I could find was used, and they started at $325.

I bought my Schwinn from Target for 269.

If only bike shops WOULD carry some of the lower-end bikes, heck, they could buy in lots from Target, and mark them up a bit, and still come under some of their other bikes.
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You can't buy a new Schwinn from a bike shop for $300... I looked, and all I could find was used, and they started at $325.

I bought my Schwinn from Target for 269.

If only bike shops WOULD carry some of the lower-end bikes, heck, they could buy in lots from Target, and mark them up a bit, and still come under some of their other bikes.
The Schwinns in big box stores aren't the Schwinns made by Schwinn. It's just re-labeled junk like the roadmaster next to it in the store. Unfortunately it costs more than $300 in wholesale to even buy a real bike.
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Originally Posted by IcySmooth52 View Post
The Schwinns in big box stores aren't the Schwinns made by Schwinn. It's just re-labeled junk like the roadmaster next to it in the store. Unfortunately it costs more than $300 in wholesale to even buy a real bike.
There really are no Schwinns any more. At least not under that name.
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Whatever gets people on bikes.

Here is my first for reference.



It still is unsurpassed for wheelie ability. The rear seat stays made it really easy to clothes pin hockey cards on it too.

Ultra cool bike.
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Originally Posted by IcySmooth52 View Post
The Schwinns in big box stores aren't the Schwinns made by Schwinn. It's just re-labeled junk like the roadmaster next to it in the store. Unfortunately it costs more than $300 in wholesale to even buy a real bike.
Interesting... Wasn't the opinion of the mechanic from the LBS who saw it... He seemed to think it was a pretty nice steal. He said it'd be something they'd sell for about $350.
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Wal-Mart is the worlds largest retailer. They know what they are doing.
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