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Kurt Kinetic Trainer initial impressions...

Old 11-28-04, 09:59 PM
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Kurt Kinetic Trainer initial impressions...

well,
i found one used in my local area for dirt cheap ($100) so i decided to hop on it...considering it's not supposed to be able to leak fluid, i'm not too worried about the warranty at that this point. 12 magnets are used to "join" the axle and the fins (completely enclosed with the fluid...no rubber seal to break).

Initial impressions is...it's heavy and the flywheel is considerably larger than other trainers i have seen. setup is very straightforward, but because of the weight of the resistance unit+flywheel, w/o the bike in place it rolls back and collapses. With the bike in, it's completely stable. I used a steel quick release skewer as my bontrager skewer didn't seem like it was going to withstand the stress after locking the bike into place (plastic nut...or plastic nut cover...)

first time i hopped on the bike, the wheel didn't have enough contact with the axle/drum or whatever it's called so it slipped around, but it was easy to adjust the resistance unit...just tighten the knob down behind the unit. after tightening everything down and confirming that nothing was slipping, i tried doing a quick sprint to see how the thing would stand up to a bit of punishment. i didn't have riser blocks, so i'm not sure if that was why, but the bike would torque a bit left and right...maybe about 2 inches each way. in the saddle, the bike was completely stable.

acceleration on the trainer felt more realistic than on rollers, but i could definitely feel my pedal stroke become extremely sloppy since i haven't mastered it to the point where i can do it without giving it a second thought. knowing that it was near impossible to fall off, i think, contributed to my poor stroke, but this can be remedied with more practice on the rollers and being more conscious of my stroke. on my gearing with 42-14 (middle ring on triple), there was definitely much more resistance when my cadence was 90 vs when it was 70 and felt much more like how it would feel on the road. Coast down takes about 10-15 seconds vs 5 seconds or so on a typical trainer...i suspect the huge flywheel helps it keep its momentum.

sound...well, i thought sound was going to be pretty quiet as most people with fluid trainers seem to agree that the units are quiet...i've never used another fluid trainer, so i can't really say, but it's definitely quieter than a wind trainer, and maybe a bit quieter than a magnetic trainer. the one problem is, if you have hardwood floors, you will definitely benefit from dampened carpeting/rug/mat. i tried using a rug underneath the trainer and a towel underneath the front tire which helped considerably. I suspect a rubber mat or maybe some Dynamat underneath the carpet and towel would help tremendously. It's definitely quieter than my rollers.

am i satisfied with my purchase? yep. would i have paid street price for it if i couldn't find it used? yep. for those of you looking for a VERY good deal, i suggest this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW Cateye CD300DW cyclocomputer and brand new Kurt Kinetic for $275 is extremely difficult to beat.

hope this helps those of you guys who were considering this trainer

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I got this trainer in September, and all I can say is DITTO to what you just said, the only thing that I can add is that the block for the front wheel ( a must) will make a big difference and give you more stability to an already stable ride.
Rock solid trainer, and very good road feel, can't go wrong.
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I have a Kurt Kinetic waiting under the tree and can't wait for Christmas so I can get on it. Do I need a new skewer or will the one on my bike now work? (I ride a Cervelo Soloist). I have never been on a trainer before so please let me in on anything you think will help. -Thanks
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
I have a Kurt Kinetic waiting under the tree and can't wait for Christmas so I can get on it. Do I need a new skewer or will the one on my bike now work? (I ride a Cervelo Soloist). I have never been on a trainer before so please let me in on anything you think will help. -Thanks
It should come with another skewer - will save your "good" skewer from getting nicked up.
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Originally Posted by Markedoc
It should come with another skewer - will save your "good" skewer from getting nicked up.
Hmmm ... maybe I should take that back - looked on the website and it looks like you would either need to use your existing skewer or buy another for $4.95. I'd get an extra for trainer use if you don't already have a spare.
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Markedoc,
Supposedly most skewers to fit, but wider ones such as the bontrager skewers would not. I didn't really notice this, but i just grabbed one off my MTB and used that instead...they recommend a steel skewer...dirt cheap at a bike shop...it's one of those things where if you buy it off the net, the shipping would cost more lol.

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Originally Posted by hoodlum
I have a Kurt Kinetic waiting under the tree and can't wait for Christmas so I can get on it. Do I need a new skewer or will the one on my bike now work? (I ride a Cervelo Soloist). I have never been on a trainer before so please let me in on anything you think will help. -Thanks
I just received my new Kurt Kinetic. The box is wrapped under the tree and the trainer is setup as it is cold and wet here in Tennessee. I respect and admire your willpower to wait until Christmas.
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
I have a Kurt Kinetic waiting under the tree and can't wait for Christmas so I can get on it. Do I need a new skewer or will the one on my bike now work? (I ride a Cervelo Soloist). I have never been on a trainer before so please let me in on anything you think will help. -Thanks
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but is that Cervelo Soloist riding ? I'm lookin at it as my next purchase.
What are your impressions on the Soloist?
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Hi,
I use the Performance block, which, you lucky dog, is half price right now... http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4122
If you can get a cheap rug at Goodwill or something, that will help a lot with the noise. My impression is that you want to use a hard rubber tire, I seem to chew up tires pretty quick. Lastly, Kurt has
a computer made for the Kinetics that does watts. I am sooo tempted.
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I really like the Soloist. I think it was the best bike I could buy in the price range. It climbs like a billy goat, and the BB is very rigid. I have been very happy with it, and I have put about 4000 miles on it since May when I bought it. My LBS is tri based and sells a large number of Cervelo bikes of all models, so I got to ask some questions to several Soloist riders I trusted before I made my decision. All of the people I spoke with loved theirs. I have ridden a few bike that were considerably more expensive that I did not **** as well as the one I bought.
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