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Old 10-05-11, 02:44 PM
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Trek vs Wilier

I have an opportunity to pick up a new frame for free but I have to choose between a 2010 Trek Madone 5 series or 2010 Wilier Imperial. I will be using my own group of Sram FD Force and RD and Shifters both Red and Red crank. I am 165# riding bout 200 miles per week. I don't race but like aggressive group rides and organized charity ride of 60 to 100 miles. I like my EDGE 45mm carbon wheels for stiffness and will use them too.

My concern is stiffness for the higher speeds on descents and cornering. Some rides I am near 48 mph on descents with some turns. I know that there are many other bikes that would be excellent but I have to stay with these two cause of the price, FREE!
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Here's a bunch of reviews on the Wilier:
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...fork-10-35543/
http://road.cc/content/review/20286-...periale-chorus
http://www.roadbikeaction.com/Bike-T...Imperiale.html

Seems like a real standout. Or you could get the last 5 series made in the US. I'd go with the Wilier.
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ooh, sounds like there's a story there.
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Wilier! I'm biased
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Both are great bikes and you can't go wrong with either. But the Imperiale will be the rarer of the two. Buy the one that fits better and you like the looks of.
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Does Trek still make frames with non-replaceable derailleur hangers?
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Originally Posted by mpath View Post
Both are great bikes and you can't go wrong with either. But the Imperiale will be the rarer of the two. Buy the one that fits better and you like the looks of.
I ignore the looks idea but am very interested in the firmness of the both frames. I have ridden both and either would be a good platform for my longer base rides. Guess it would hard to find some of you out there that have some Wilier experience.
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OP, you must be a much more serious and strong willed cyclist than I, because I'd be on that Wilier in a NY minute for the cool factor alone.

When all is said and done, please share the back story if appropriate to do so.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
Does Trek still make frames with non-replaceable derailleur hangers?
Yes
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Yes
That would make my decision.
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Wilier. Hands down. Those are cool looking bike with a cool looking name.
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For me, I'd pick the Wilier, no contest
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Originally Posted by Gumbus View Post
I ignore the looks idea but am very interested in the firmness of the both frames. I have ridden both and either would be a good platform for my longer base rides. Guess it would hard to find some of you out there that have some Wilier experience.
I distinctly remember a review of the Wilier by one of the racers in the racer forum (possibly the most accomplished on this board), and it was so glowing you had to wonder how much they paid him... ;-)

I have the 2010 5 series (it was also free), and I'd avoid it for no reason other than the stupid, single-bolt seat mast. And don't get me started on all the proprietary bearings.

(Actually, there were issues with the fit & finish too: poorly fit rear brake mount, BB and bearings ever slightly too wide to accept the cranks...so much for "made in America")

And for goodness sakes, get the Wilier!

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Originally Posted by Pedaleur View Post
I distinctly remember a review by one of the racers in the racer forum (possibly the most accomplished on this board), and it was so glowing you had to wonder how much they paid him... ;-)

I have the 2010 5 series (it was also free), and I'd avoid it for no reason other than the stupid, single-bolt seat mast. And don't get me started on all the proprietary bearings.

(Actually, there were issues with the fit & finish too: poorly fit rear brake mount, BB and bearings ever slightly too wide to accept the cranks...so much for "made in America")

And for goodness sakes, get the Wilier!
So you're saying get the Wilier then?(j/k)
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BTW, I doubt there's a high end carbon frame that's not stiff enough for anyone not named Magnus Backstedt (unless it's some sort of exotic weight weenie thing).
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I would also be very interested in knowing why someone is giving you one of these frames for free.

I can only dream of owning a bike of that level and price. I consider what I have now to be the pinnicle of what I could hope for, lol. With that said, the Trek that I owned before was a very pleasing bike to ride. It was, of course, in a different class than what you are looking at, but the Madone is a very popular bike and brand, and not only because it's what Lance rides. In spite of that, the cool factor of that Wilier is very high. It is distinctive as hell, and you likely would not see another one while out on a ride. Lots of folks ride a Madone. If the ride and fit on the Wilier is acceptable I think I would have to go that way just for the rarity. I must say, I don't like that "cut the seatpost" thing.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
Does Trek still make frames with non-replaceable derailleur hangers?
No.
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Wrong. No they don't.
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No.
Wait, they do have replaceable hangers now?

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