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Giant Defy Advanced 2011 vs 2012

Old 10-08-11, 12:30 PM
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Giant Defy Advanced 2011 vs 2012

Ok so having pretty much ruled out the Synapse that I thought I was going to get and riding several bikes I'm currently leaning toward getting a Defy Advanced. Now here is my issue, my LBS has in stock the 2011 Defy Advanced 3 which is a 105 equipped bike with an alloy steerer fork. They do not plan to get in the 2012 Advanced line because of the poor sales of the 2011 model (they still have a bunch in stock) saying buyers looking for this sort of bike are buying the Roubaix first and the Synapse second then maybe...maybe they look at the Defy.

So anyway the Defy Advanced 3 they have lists for $1900 and I can probably get it for less than $1500. If I have them order a 2012 I would ge the Force equipped Defy Advanced 1 which lists for $3700 and I would probably pay around $3000 for. The 2012 is lighter and the frame design has changed a little but will cost twice as much. If I get the 2011 I will strip it down and put a mix of SRAM on it, build myself a set of much lighter than stock wheels and maybe upgrade the fork...thus costing around $3000. Or I could get the 2012 swap the bars and shifters (I have a new set of Red shifters and Easton EC90 SLX3 bars I like...at some point I would probably also put different wheels on it (not so sure about those stock wheels).

Pros for going with the 2011 would be the fun of swapping parts and building it to my specification. Con for the 2011 would be no matter what the frame is heavier than the 2012, and I sort of wonder if the 2012 is any softer in vertical flex than the 2011 which seems pretty stiff as compared to my Neo (sort of like my Merckx). A pro for the 2012 would be that it has the integrated ANT+ sensor so I won't have to run the CG10 for my Garmin.

Neither bike is BB30 so I don't have to worry about that.

So has anyone ridden both the 2011 and 2012 Defy Advanced and can comment on the ride of each?
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What has you leaning toward the Defy over the others? As for the your situation I'm not sure which way I'd go. I had looked at the Defy in 2010 but ended up with a Cervelo RS...
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since you will be paying essentially the same I'd get the 2012 and swap the shifters and bars....from the sound of it you will get a lighter bike in the end too...if the frame weight difference is significant it's hard to do much about a heavy frame.

I have an OCR1 form 2008 I think and I love it I've swapped bars for a better fit and bought nicer wheels but anything else is pointless cause the bike is heavy to begin with.
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Originally Posted by af2nr View Post
What has you leaning toward the Defy over the others? As for the your situation I'm not sure which way I'd go. I had looked at the Defy in 2010 but ended up with a Cervelo RS...
Well they all ride somewhat similarly but of course there are slight differences. Honestly I don't know what it is that I like about the Defy over the Roubaix...maybe that it isn't as muted...you just can't feel anything on the Roubaix. I wanted the Synapse until I rode it, honestly it was an optimal setup for me but the biggest issues that wasn't going to be fixed was every time I was on rough pavement the internal brake cable was rattling inside the top tube. It was really annoying and we have plenty of ship seal around here so I would be hearing this all the time. The Defy Advanced and Roubaix SL3 were very close but there is something drawing me to the defy. My LBS is a Cervelo dealer but they don't have any RS in stock. Also in speaking with them about it they said the finish quality of every Cervelo they have gotten in was horrible. Lots of stuff in the paint and paint chipping....I am good friends with the GM of my LBS so I know he wasn't just saying this because they didn't have inventory.
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You had a Roubaix before IIRC, that's kind of why I was asking what was drawing you to the Defy? I wasn't trying to push the Cervelo but letting you know where I ended up. I actually couldn't find an Advanced 1 in my size when I was looking so that kind of knocked it out early in my shopping, also considered the Roubaix and CR1. Having had my RS for a year and a half now I can say I haven't had any issues, plus there is a lifetime warranty on it. If it were me in your situation I would probably lean toward the 12 1 over the 11 3 if money wasn't a issue. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by af2nr View Post
You had a Roubaix before IIRC, that's kind of why I was asking what was drawing you to the Defy? I wasn't trying to push the Cervelo but letting you know where I ended up. I actually couldn't find an Advanced 1 in my size when I was looking so that kind of knocked it out early in my shopping, also considered the Roubaix and CR1. Having had my RS for a year and a half now I can say I haven't had any issues, plus there is a lifetime warranty on it. If it were me in your situation I would probably lean toward the 12 1 over the 11 3 if money wasn't a issue. Good luck!
Yes I had the Comp level bike in 2006 which was their 6r carbon at that time.



I sold it because I was gifted my Eddy Merckx and honestly when I stood up if felt like the power I was putting out was just going nowhere. The new SL3 is MUCH different than that bike in terms of drivetrain stiffness and it is VERY close between the Roubaix and the Defy.
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I'm far from an expert, but I suspect that if the first thing you're thinking about doing is stripping a complete bike, then you probably shouldn't be buying a complete bike. If what you really want is a frame, buy one and build it up. There's no sense in buying parts just to remove them and strip the bike down.

Also, if you want a $3000 bike, buy one. And if spending twice as much isn't getting you something that you value twice as much, don't buy it either.

Personally, if I had that kind of money to spend, I probably would build the bike completely from scratch. At that price level, there is no reason to compromise.
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Originally Posted by twodownzero View Post
I'm far from an expert, but I suspect that if the first thing you're thinking about doing is stripping a complete bike, then you probably shouldn't be buying a complete bike. If what you really want is a frame, buy one and build it up. There's no sense in buying parts just to remove them and strip the bike down.

Also, if you want a $3000 bike, buy one. And if spending twice as much isn't getting you something that you value twice as much, don't buy it either.

Personally, if I had that kind of money to spend, I probably would build the bike completely from scratch. At that price level, there is no reason to compromise.
Right I'm considering the 2011 basically as though I am buying just the frame. I would probably gift the 105 components to my father to replace his aging 9 speed Ultegra 6500....wheels would be kept as backups. Other than the wheels the 2012 is just about perfect...I just happen to have the Red shift levers and the bars so I will swap those out to gain a tiny bit of performance and weight savings. I don't think there is a $2000-$3000 bike that comes with a set of stock wheels I would like...good thing I know how to build wheels.

I have looked at just framesets but I am not finding what I want in just a frameset plus I like the ability to have test ridden these bikes. I know the size I need so I could buy on the net but since my LBS has a couple of great choices why not go with them. The other bike I would consider is the Bianchi Infinito but I can't test ride it so dropping $2400 on a frame is a bit sketchy...plus it would wind up being closer to $4000+ when all was said and done.
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