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The New Slicker

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Slim, do you either work for WalMart, Schwinn, or one of the distributors of the bikes they carry?
You are running around here carrying a torch for a product line that is not going to be embraced by true cyclists. Anyone with a bit of experience with bikes and cycling realizes fast that buying a quality bike with the componetry that will not only work, but last under that work, is much more effective than buying a cheap model and trying to fix everything that was DESIGNED poorly and cost more to fix it all than to just buy the good one in the first place. These bikes are made for nothing more than a season or two of light riding and then to be disposed of (much like the way everything else is going too). Sure, there are a few out that have some good components thrown on, but they are the exception, not the rule.
WalMart is not, and I hope it never becomes, a substitute for the competent LBS, or good bikes. I hope that continues to be the way it is, as wally world has pretty much closed down every other small business and hardware store anywhere in the area it takes over and replaced competent and knowledgable niche sales professionals with mindless corporate clerks who know nothing the little tag doesn't already tell you.

Edit-Slim, what kind of bike do you ride? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post


Hey Guys!

So this is the new Slicker from Schwinn. The frame is made from 520 chromoly steel. It comes complete with 105 derailleur, FSA Cartridge, Microshift 9-speed bar end shifters. The Cog set is Sunrace R96, 11-25t. KT alloy 32-hole hubs. The wheels are Alex PC 19.

Since it's from Schwinn, I'd say that ain't Walmart and that ain't bad for only $770!

What do you think?

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theres so much better you could do for $770
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I thought this was going to be about a rain coat.
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Originally Posted by punkncat View Post
Slim, do you either work for WalMart, Schwinn, or one of the distributors of the bikes they carry?
You are running around here carrying a torch for a product line that is not going to be embraced by true cyclists. Anyone with a bit of experience with bikes and cycling realizes fast that buying a quality bike with the componetry that will not only work, but last under that work, is much more effective than buying a cheap model and trying to fix everything that was DESIGNED poorly and cost more to fix it all than to just buy the good one in the first place. These bikes are made for nothing more than a season or two of light riding and then to be disposed of (much like the way everything else is going too). Sure, there are a few out that have some good components thrown on, but they are the exception, not the rule.
WalMart is not, and I hope it never becomes, a substitute for the competent LBS, or good bikes. I hope that continues to be the way it is, as wally world has pretty much closed down every other small business and hardware store anywhere in the area it takes over and replaced competent and knowledgable niche sales professionals with mindless corporate clerks who know nothing the little tag doesn't already tell you.

Edit-Slim, what kind of bike do you ride? Just curious.
Hey there PunkNCat!

First of all, Walmart doesn't carry the Slicker and I doubt that Schwinn will ever allow it to. Next, this bike is made of 520 chromoly steel and comes with fairly decent componentry by anyone's standards, considering the price. I only referenced Walmart, because Walmart is known for carrying certain Schwinn models. This Schwinn model is so unlike that of the Walmart variety, that I decided to feature it here, so that people get a chance to see that Schwinn is in a state of transition. Their quality is improving! Something that we as cyclists are always impressed to see.

Yep! You're right! I like carrying the torch for nice bikes. I like nice bikes!

You can find this nice bike at any Schwinn dealer near you. That would make it your friendly neighborhood LBS!

I thank you for the opportunity, PunkNCat!

- Slim

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A Brand new Raleigh Grand Prix- A Refurbished Giant Innova- A Trek 7.5FX- An old Nishiki Sebring.

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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred View Post
theres so much better you could do for $770
Is that what he said?....DropDeadFred!

No seriously though, Fred!... ( Hope there's not too many Freds in this thread )

For $770! I doubt very seriously, that you could do much better than this!

Alright! Name a couple that would be better for this meager amount!

Just name 'em!

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Originally Posted by tanguy frame View Post
I thought this was going to be about a rain coat.
You only thought that because you're from Portland!

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It is nice to see that there is a new bike with a Schwinn badge that is not a total POS... as a company Schwinn ceased to exist when they were bought up in 2001 by Pacific cycles (the brand name was worth millions) and subsequently was bought up by Dorel.

In purchasing the rights to the name, Pacific and Dorel have been able to produce countless numbers of craptastic bicycles with a Schwinn badge which has done much to equate the name "Schwinn" with low end and cheap and that is hard to come back from.

The same happened with Raleigh in 2000 when they were bought by Derby Cycles but Raleigh has really done well to re-establish the name as a quality manufacturer and one of our local shops will be bringing in a full line in 2012... it has been a long time since any decent bike shop carried Raleighs here and it will take a while before people realize that these are quality bicycles.

Ignaz Schwinn must have rolled over in his grave when his company was sold off and the name he established was used to market cheaply made Chinese bicycles.
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if you want a schwinn for less than $800, this one blows that out of the water http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._legacy_xi.htm
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if you want a schwinn for less than $800, this one blows that out of the water http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._legacy_xi.htm
Ah___! They're relatively the same more or less. However, with the Slicker, you purchase it at a LBS. Therefore, you get all of the services and amenities that accompany a purchase from a LBS. Online is cool if you're somewhat mechanical.

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IDK $770 vs $800...There's no actual difference there!
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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
A Brand new Raleigh Grand Prix- A Refurbished Giant Innova- A Trek 7.5FX- An old Nishiki Sebring.

Somewhat suprized (or not) that there are no cheap Wal Mart bikes, or Schwinns in that collection.
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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
This Schwinn model is so unlike that of the Walmart variety, that I decided to feature it here, so that people get a chance to see that Schwinn is in a state of transition. Their quality is improving! Something that we as cyclists are always impressed to see.
2 years ago Schwinn had a full line carbon and aluminum framed road bikes with the top models featuring Dura Ace or Red components and a special order stainless steel Paramount frame. Not offered any more. And you point to a microshift and sunrace equipped bike as a sign of improving quality?
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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
What do you think?

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Interesting paint scheme.
But Sunrace cogs, Microshift shifters, Alex rims... I'd rather pay double and have decent components.

Or $100 more for this:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ane/outlaw.htm
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Welcome to 1974.
Damn! Are we here already! ...Wait a minute! Let me put my bifocals on....

Hey! ....Where's all the horses at?...Where's the rail tracks?...Hey! What's them buggy-looking things flying by on four wheels like that?... Ain't that kinda dangerous?...Hey! I don't wanna be here no more! Take me back! Take me back! Take me back!

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That gold does look a little conspicuously cheap!

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Interesting paint scheme.
But Sunrace cogs, Microshift shifters, Alex rims... I'd rather pay double and have decent components.

Or $100 more for this:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ane/outlaw.htm
T'aint that bad for the $!

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2 years ago Schwinn had a full line carbon and aluminum framed road bikes with the top models featuring Dura Ace or Red components and a special order stainless steel Paramount frame. Not offered any more. And you point to a microshift and sunrace equipped bike as a sign of improving quality?
I bow my head in utter shame and humility...

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Originally Posted by punkncat View Post
Somewhat suprized (or not) that there are no cheap Wal Mart bikes, or Schwinns in that collection.
Hey! Wait a minute!...I think I got a new Schwinn Varsity in the basement!

I'll be right back!

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
It is nice to see that there is a new bike with a Schwinn badge that is not a total POS... as a company Schwinn ceased to exist when they were bought up in 2001 by Pacific cycles (the brand name was worth millions) and subsequently was bought up by Dorel.

In purchasing the rights to the name, Pacific and Dorel have been able to produce countless numbers of craptastic bicycles with a Schwinn badge which has done much to equate the name "Schwinn" with low end and cheap and that is hard to come back from.

The same happened with Raleigh in 2000 when they were bought by Derby Cycles but Raleigh has really done well to re-establish the name as a quality manufacturer and one of our local shops will be bringing in a full line in 2012... it has been a long time since any decent bike shop carried Raleighs here and it will take a while before people realize that these are quality bicycles.

Ignaz Schwinn must have rolled over in his grave when his company was sold off and the name he established was used to market cheaply made Chinese bicycles.
Good post! 100% agree!
and by the way craptastic describes it perfectly!
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When Pacific took over Schwinn, they tried a dual retail strategy. 1) Selling junky bikes at high volume and low markup through big box stores and 2) Selling good bikes at low volume and high margins through independent bike dealers. This failed because it immediately devalued the brand that the Schwinn family had spent decades building. Bike shops had to spend a lot of time explaining why their Schwinns were not the same as the cheaper ones at Wal*Mart. Dealers that had been Schwinn dealers for generations dropped the brand.

Pacific, now Dorel, has made a number of attempts to reintroduce Schwinns through IBDs but it just fails even when the new bikes have been good values. The dealers felt betrayed and the Wal*Mart reputation hasn't been shed. Some of these will be sold through places like Performance, as they are also doing with another damaged brand: GT. But Schwinn will likely never be seen as a premium badge again.
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You remind me a lot of 2ndGen.
You remind me a lot of my new wife!...Of course, I'm not married, yet!

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SlimRider: As promised, I raise the zombie thread.

I ride a single speed road bike (Windsor TimeLine), but I'm curious about trying crit racing. If (big "if") I buy a new bike to scratch that itch with, I'd like to do it on a Schwinn.

I've read several reviews of the Fastback Comp, none of which has anything but praise for the bike. Given the spec, that doesn't surprise me. It may be more bike than I'm worthy of right now, but it's the one I'm leaning toward:

http://www.schwinnbikes.com/bikes/ro...omp-mens-14319

Saying this, I'm also interested in IGH road bikes, stuff in the manner of the old Raleigh Clubman. That means something like this

http://www.traitorcycles.com/Bikes_Luggernaut3spd.cfm?Token={ts_2012-07-06_21:34:15**-38818677

or this

http://www.cooperbikes.com/bikes/3/Reims

The Slicker, with bar-end shifting and a 1x9 drivetrain, approximates all three. So here's the hypothetical: Given a flat course, just how often does a rider shift? Do most riders stay on the big ring? If so, why not a 1x9?

Logic says buy used; convention says to buy a different brand, new or used, from any of the bikes mentioned above. If you throw logic and convention out the window, which of these would you choose?
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SlimRider: As promised, I raise the zombie thread.

I ride a single speed road bike (Windsor TimeLine), but I'm curious about trying crit racing. If (big "if") I buy a new bike to scratch that itch with, I'd like to do it on a Schwinn.

I've read several reviews of the Fastback Comp, none of which has anything but praise for the bike. Given the spec, that doesn't surprise me. It may be more bike than I'm worthy of right now, but it's the one I'm leaning toward:

http://www.schwinnbikes.com/bikes/ro...omp-mens-14319

Saying this, I'm also interested in IGH road bikes, stuff in the manner of the old Raleigh Clubman. That means something like this

http://www.traitorcycles.com/Bikes_Luggernaut3spd.cfm?Token={ts_2012-07-06_21:34:15**-38818677

or this

http://www.cooperbikes.com/bikes/3/Reims

The Slicker, with bar-end shifting and a 1x9 drivetrain, approximates all three. So here's the hypothetical: Given a flat course, just how often does a rider shift? Do most riders stay on the big ring? If so, why not a 1x9?

Logic says buy used; convention says to buy a different brand, new or used, from any of the bikes mentioned above. If you throw logic and convention out the window, which of these would you choose?

Hey there Rudy!

Dispensing all logic, I'd have to go with the Cooper Sebring...

PS.

This was back when I used to do the smiley faces!

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