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Anyone use Lizard Skins bar tape? Impressions?

Old 10-11-11, 09:27 AM
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Anyone use Lizard Skins bar tape? Impressions?

I've felt this stuff at the LBS, but only by touching the sample on the package with my finger. It felt nice, but I've never actually held on to bars wrapped with it.

I've tried Fizik tape and good old cork tape (and Deda foam too). Fizik tape is too thin and basically offers zero padding, but I find cork tape to be too thick.

I'm looking for something thinner that still offers a little shock absorption for my hands. Where do Lizard Skins fall in the thickness/bulk range?
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They come in 1.8mm and 2.5mm thickness. I like the 2.5, as they are very comfy.
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There it's some sort of comfort with the tape but not as much cork. The best thing that it offers is grip, while being relative light, thin and ready to clean.
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Rode with the 2.5 on my last bike for about 1000 miles. Loved it! IMO it's the best tape out there but it's also the most expensive.

Arundel makes a Gecko tape that is a good bit cheaper and a similar type of feel. It's not as nice as the Lizard Skin but provides a decent cheaper alternative.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pr...4966.27.1.html
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Have the lizard skin on right now and it is by far the quickest tape to attract dirt, and I have to actually use solvents to clean it... elbow grease doesn't help... cork was easier to clean than LS. I think I will wrap Fizik over my Lizard skin for the feel... as it has been said, the fizik is pretty hard, but I like the feel MUCH more than LS... I like cork more than lizard skin for that matter.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
I've felt this stuff at the LBS, but only by touching the sample on the package with my finger. It felt nice, but I've never actually held on to bars wrapped with it.

I've tried Fizik tape and good old cork tape (and Deda foam too). Fizik tape is too thin and basically offers zero padding, but I find cork tape to be too thick.

I'm looking for something thinner that still offers a little shock absorption for my hands. Where do Lizard Skins fall in the thickness/bulk range?
I found this to be true as well. I rewrapped my original tape with Planet Bike cheap tape and it was great. In typical upgrade-itis-if-it-ain't-broke-fix-it-anyway fashion I went with Fizik standard tape for my next rewrap. It was seriously like just grabbing the handlebar. No padding whatsoever. Rides started to hurt again so I got new gloves! Hah! I know could have doublewrapped and also that Fizik has a padded kit you can purchase but that's too much trouble for me. I didn't have a chance to replace the Fizik because I was nailed by a car but this new CAAD10 will get cheapo Planet Bike tape for the next rewrap.
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I have the Lizard Skins tape now. I like how easy it has been for me to clean. I ran white on one of my bikes, and it stayed clean looking far longer than any other white tape I tried. Overall, it seemed about the same padding as other tape, just with a lot more grip. The rubber like surface made it easy to just wipe off dirt with a damp rag.
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I got the Arundel Gecko tape...I love it
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred View Post
I got the Arundel Gecko tape...I love it
its half the price too
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Yep. Lizard Skin 2.5mm on all my drop bar bikes. Great when wet and cleans up well. Does a nice job of dampening vibration but still provides feel. I like it a lot.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
I've felt this stuff at the LBS, but only by touching the sample on the package with my finger. It felt nice, but I've never actually held on to bars wrapped with it.

I've tried Fizik tape and good old cork tape (and Deda foam too). Fizik tape is too thin and basically offers zero padding, but I find cork tape to be too thick.

I'm looking for something thinner that still offers a little shock absorption for my hands. Where do Lizard Skins fall in the thickness/bulk range?
I have been using the Red DSP tape on one of my bikes since January of this year. It has held up pretty well and I really like the grip, which offers the best grip of any tape I've used. It doesn't offer a lot of padding, however, similar to Fizik.

I will probably pony up and get some leather next time:
http://handlebra.com/product-information

One tape that interests me is the 2012 Cinelli Caleido rolls, which basically seems like a pvc tape (easy to keep clean) over a multi-colored, splash cork tape (good padding).
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I use the 2.5mm. I love it. RE: solvents, the instructions specifically say not to use them, to clean only with rubbing alcohol or water so that you don't damage the tape or lose the tacky feeling.

I typically ride with half or full gloves, but on a recent 50km ride that started at 52F and windy I only brought full gloves. It reached 65 in short order and my hands got hot during the second half of the ride. I took my gloves off and the grip is amazing, even with sweaty hands. This tape should be the #1 choice for TT and triathletes, or anyone else riding barehanded.
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Old 10-11-11, 11:05 AM
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Oh and in the future I'll be purchasing any color but white. I have the dual-color white/black and it's a love-hate relationship.
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Thanks for the suggestions and comments everyone.

I might have to try the 1.8mm version after I use this Arundel cork tape for awhile. The 2.5 sounds a bit thick.

The bars I'm using are PRO Vibe oversized bars where the 31.8mm clamp diameter actually extends almost to the hood clamp area. They feel great, but maybe a little fat with thicker cork tape on there. My girlfriend has the same Arundel cork on her traditionally shaped bars and they feel a bit small even with both cables routed underneath. I'm trying to find that middle ground between both setups so I think some thinner bar tape might accomplish that. I might even go back to Fizik. I didn't necessary have a problem with the lack of padding, but it would be nice to have just a tad without the bars feeling as bulky as they do with cork tape. I don't think I want to try the gel strips underneath the Fizik tape because that would definitely add some bulk to the bars which I do not want.
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the 2.5mm is thinner than my previous tape, which was arundel cork tape. the 1.8mm feels like fizik tape except more grippy.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
the 2.5mm is thinner than my previous tape, which was arundel cork tape. the 1.8mm feels like fizik tape except more grippy.
In that case, maybe I'll go to the LBS and take a closer look at the 2.5mm tape before I decide. Thanks.
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No idea about this stuff, but I've been quite impressed with Specialized Phat Wrap.

It comes with gel pads so it's heaps comfy, and is quite tough and stretchy, so it wraps well and gives you a lot of choice as to how tight to make it over the gel if you want it a bit firmer. Texture is a bit rougher and grippier than usual.

No idea how it cleans, because I prefer black tape.

Oh, and only 20-odd bucks, IIRC
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I use either Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix or I use LizardSkins 2.5. I prefer LizardSkins -- but its also twice the price -- so I don't really buy it anymore. The LizardSkins has superior wet grip.
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Wifey's bike has Specialized Phat Wrap. Even without using the gel pads, it's thicker than 2.5mm LizardSkins. (I dunno how/why both are rated 2.5mm.) Nowhere near as grippy... it's a completely different feel. More smooth and less tacky, kind of like comparing foam rubber to silicone rubber.

With gel pads installed, Phat Wrap is the most comfy tape I've used. If I had to do a ton of miles or had any sort of hand/wrist pain it would be high on my list. Grippy was my #1 priority though.
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Super comfy isn't really on the priority list, but I do appreciate the suggestions folks. I would say my priority list goes:

1. thin
2. nice "feel"
3. some shock absorption

The 1.8mm Lizard Skins might be what I'm looking for, but since ColinL is saying the 2.5mm stuff is still thinner than the Arundel cork tape I might have to consider that as well. I'm running the Arundel cork tape and it's just too thick for my liking.
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred View Post
I got the Arundel Gecko tape...I love it
Let's stay on topic.
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love it! Have it on all three of my road bikes and wouldn't consider another tape. I don't know about easily cleanable though. My white tape is ready to be replaced after a season and will not come clean.





I have a pic of the argon with its new tape job somewhere, but I can't locate it at the moment
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Tactile feel for glove-free riding: superb

Ease of cleaning and overall durability: exaggerated and underwhelming

If cost wasn't an issue, I'd probably purchase again. As it is, I have one more set on-hand and don't see myself buying it again.

At ~1k miles, I had several holes appearing, and the tape wouldn't clean up beyond "not as dirty." At 2k, the holes grew and had neighbors. 3500 miles now, and even if it would take to cleaning, it would probably disintegrate upon attempt.

The tape appears to be comprised of a thin "skin" sheathed or bonded around a foam core. Much like a blister tears, this skin seems to pull away from the core in high-use areas.

On the plus side, the roll is generous. And while I found it a bit challenging at first to wrap it around the levers (tape seems a bit wide), it does take to being rewrapped. And there are some nice color choices.
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Tactile feel for glove-free riding: superb

Ease of cleaning and overall durability: exaggerated and underwhelming

If cost wasn't an issue, I'd probably purchase again. As it is, I have one more set on-hand and don't see myself buying it again.

At ~1k miles, I had several holes appearing, and the tape wouldn't clean up beyond "not as dirty." At 2k, the holes grew and had neighbors. 3500 miles now, and even if it would take to cleaning, it would probably disintegrate upon attempt.

The tape appears to be comprised of a thin "skin" sheathed or bonded around a foam core. Much like a blister tears, this skin seems to pull away from the core in high-use areas.

On the plus side, the roll is generous. And while I found it a bit challenging at first to wrap it around the levers (tape seems a bit wide), it does take to being rewrapped. And there are some nice color choices.
I appreciate the honest review. A lot of people tend to hype certain products but never share the other side of the story. I am okay with replacing bar tape every 1k miles, so I can live with the durability issues if the feel is right.

What kind did you end up going with? 1.8mm or 2.5mm and how does it compare in bulk when compared to your typical cork tape?
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gadabout007- looking good! I'd like to ask you the same question. How does it feel bulk-wise? It looks like you are using the slightly thicker 2.5mm version.
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