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Please recommend computer with cadence, altitude, heartrate, backlight

Old 10-11-11, 11:52 AM
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Please recommend computer with cadence, altitude, heartrate, backlight

Need to get full boat computer as I'm starting to get serious about training. Would like non-GPS computer that works well and has in addition to usual speed stuff, cadence, altitude, heart rate, back light.

Nice but not necessary: if the altitude does not need setting at each new place, and if it wakes up when you start and sleeps when you stop. Computer connection nice.

Thanks for any help. Have looked at threads but haven't found comparative coverage of current models.
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Old 10-11-11, 11:55 AM
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Too bad about the non-GPS requirement. Garmin Edge 500 is perfect for you otherwise.
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Originally Posted by river251 View Post
Need to get full boat computer as I'm starting to get serious about training. Would like non-GPS computer that works well and has in addition to usual speed stuff, cadence, altitude, heart rate, back light.

Nice but not necessary: if the altitude does not need setting at each new place, and if it wakes up when you start and sleeps when you stop. Computer connection nice.

Thanks for any help. Have looked at threads but haven't found comparative coverage of current models.
What you're asking for is impossible without something like GPS. Hell, even with GPS, this goal is nearly unnobtainable but at least with GPS your data can be corrected later.

What you need is a Garmin Edge 500 and a Strava account.
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Originally Posted by svtmike View Post
Too bad about the non-GPS requirement. Garmin Edge 500 is perfect for you otherwise.
it would be, if they were actually "serious about training."
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Originally Posted by botto View Post
it would be, if they were actually "serious about training."
He can always add a PowerTap/Quarq/etc. and GC or WKO+ later.

Edit: but if you're getting after the non-existent support for interval workouts then, yes, I agree.

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Old 10-11-11, 12:12 PM
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Sigma 2209 or 1909, Cateye CCW-3.

If you need more than those, then I give yet another +1 to the Garmin 500 chanting. The Garmins are cheapest on ebay, by far, to the extent that you're probably buying grey market stuff. The others probably cheapest via Amazon.
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Old 10-11-11, 12:28 PM
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You can get an Edge 305 for $100 off ebay. Has everything you desire. You can turn off the GPS so the 1% can't track you.
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Blackburn computers have all of these features...try to find a Neuro or Delphi. I use my phone+strava in addition to the computer.
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I think Mavic Wintech ultimate does all those, not positive about the backlight though.
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Old 10-11-11, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by river251 View Post
Need to get full boat computer as I'm starting to get serious about training. Would like non-GPS computer that works well and has in addition to usual speed stuff, cadence, altitude, heart rate, back light.

Nice but not necessary: if the altitude does not need setting at each new place, and if it wakes up when you start and sleeps when you stop. Computer connection nice.

Thanks for any help. Have looked at threads but haven't found comparative coverage of current models.
Get a used Powertap and use the standard head unit that comes with it. You don't need speed, cadence, altitude, hr, or backlight for serious training.

In fact, you don't even need a power meter for serious training, you just need a ride a lot.

You can also just hire a coach and he/she will create a structured program including diet to help you meet your goals a lot easier.
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Thanks guys for the suggestions. Seems like i might need to ask a different question. 56; 5'11", 240lbs, been riding road bikes all my life but not all that "seriously," 10 miles few times a week. And now i want to do a century, and race senior class. Kansas an eventual goal. Currently working up base miles to start training for century, and starting a little hill work. New roubaix.

What do i need in terms of a computer for my training?

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Originally Posted by river251 View Post
Thanks guys for the suggestions. Seems like i might need to ask a different question. 56; 5'11", 240lbs, been riding road bikes all my life but not all that "seriously," 10 miles few times a week. And now i want to do a century, and race senior class. Kansas an eventual goal. Currently working up base miles to start training for century, and starting a little hill work. New roubaix.

What do i need in terms of a computer for my training?

Thanks
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You don't need a computer to reach the goals you listed. Just keep riding so you get more accustomed to longer distance rides as your fitness improves and possibly alter your diet.

Although many here will disagree with me, most of your diet should consist of raw fruits and vegetables and plenty of water.

So by riding more and having a better diet and also resting properly, you should be able to reach your goals before you know it.

As for racing, just enter a race when you feel ready and you will find out what you need to do at that point in time or whether or not racing is for you.
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Old 10-13-11, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post


As for racing, just enter a race when you feel ready and you will find out what you need to do at that point in time or whether or not racing is for you.

Seems like good advice except the last bit. Wouldn't it be better to consult experienced riders, and find out what I need to do before I race?
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Great resource.

OP, from your listed goals, I think the advice to ride more and read about structuring your training to include intervals etc. is probably the best you will receive.

At the moment, I've chosen to go sans computer for the majority of my riding. That doesn't mean I'm not doing the same work, just that I'm concentrating more on pushing myself, rather than watching a screen that can't account for variations in eg. wind speed, road surface, etc.

Just my 0.02p

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Sigma ROX 8.0

I have the Sigma Rox 8.0 and it has all the features you mention. I was using a VDO and switched to get the backlight for night riding. I have found the Sigma to be more accurate, refresh faster and it supplies more data.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
Get a used Powertap and use the standard head unit that comes with it. You don't need speed, cadence, altitude, hr, or backlight for serious training.
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Thanks, I need to check into this powertap, google returned a large variety if models and prices. Thanks again.

As to doing without a computer, well what would I do with the money I saved and all the time I'd have spent fiddling with the new toy? :-)

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Originally Posted by river251 View Post
Thanks, I need to check into this powertap, google returned a large variety if models and prices. Thanks again.

As to doing without a computer, well what would I do with the money I saved and all the time I'd have spent fiddling with the new toy? :-)


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OP - you and I are in similar places, in life, in cycling and even in Western WA! I too am amping up my road cycling. I bought a Trek Madone 5.2 and have been increasing miles. I will tell you what I've done to get data but I warn you I'm a hopeless geek! I have a Bontrager Node One and a Bontrager DuoTap sensor. Said sensor sits in a unique pocket Trek designed in the left chain stay. This provides both speed and cadence. It also came with a heart monitor. All nice to have but no backlight. A powermeter would sure be cool but I got my eyes on upgrading my wheels first.

Ok next I have an Apple iPhone and an iBike iPhone mount that sits atop my handle bars. On it I use either Map My Ride or Cyclemeter. Each has pros and cons. Not sure which I will eventually end up sticking with.

If you would like to hook up for a ride through the Snoqualmie River Valley and compare notes just drop me a private message. Or a ride around Mercer Island then down to Renton and back is fun too.

Do join the Cascade Bicycle Club and start doing some group rides! Awesome people and a wonderful source for information/advice!

Oops I mixed up on the OP. the advice is still solid though...

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My smartphone seems to do most of the things that the fancy computers do, to the point that I'm reluctant to upgrade my Strada Cadence.
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Old 10-16-11, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VertigoFlyer View Post
OP - you and I are in similar places, in life, in cycling and even in Western WA! I too am amping up my road cycling. I bought a Trek Madone 5.2 and have been increasing miles. I will tell you what I've done to get data but I warn you I'm a hopeless geek! I have a Bontrager Node One and a Bontrager DuoTap sensor. Said sensor sits in a unique pocket Trek designed in the left chain stay. This provides both speed and cadence. It also came with a heart monitor. All nice to have but no backlight. A powermeter would sure be cool but I got my eyes on upgrading my wheels first.

Ok next I have an Apple iPhone and an iBike iPhone mount that sits atop my handle bars. On it I use either Map My Ride or Cyclemeter. Each has pros and cons. Not sure which I will eventually end up sticking with.

If you would like to hook up for a ride through the Snoqualmie River Valley and compare notes just drop me a private message. Or a ride around Mercer Island then down to Renton and back is fun too.

Do join the Cascade Bicycle Club and start doing some group rides! Awesome people and a wonderful source for information/advice!

Oops I mixed up on the OP. the advice is still solid though...

VertigoFlyer, thanks so much for the invites, you add yet another reason I would like to live in that beautiful area. The Madonne 5.2 is a great bike, and our LBS is a Trek dealer and most people thus ride Treks around here. I had a hard time deciding myself.

You've spurred me to see what might be available for my Android phone. I know my brother uses his, maybe there is a good solution there. Already have a Polar HRM.

Thanks much!
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Bontrager Node 2 is an excellent computer that does cadence, altitude, heart rate and has a backlight. It also has a lot more features than just that and is compatible with any ANT+ devices.
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If you mount a smartphone your bar/stem and turn off the display fade so you can use it like a cyclocomputer, you will have miserably battery life. Hope you don't ride longer than 1.5 to 2 hours.

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Bontrager Node 2 is an excellent computer that does cadence, altitude, heart rate and has a backlight. It also has a lot more features than just that and is compatible with any ANT+ devices.
Thanks. Do the sensors only work with Trek bikes? I went to their website and everything seems to be about the sensors that fit into the frame. Nice but I don't have a Trek.

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Bontrager Interchange ANT+ Digital Combo Sensor - Part no. 424634 - MSRP $59.99

That is the sensor you would want with the Node (1 or 2). Node 2 includes heart rate monitor whereas the Node 1 doesn't.
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