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Does anyone use the full-carbon (no padding) saddles for racing or training?

Old 10-20-11, 09:20 PM
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Does anyone use the full-carbon (no padding) saddles for racing or training?

I have the Fizik K1 on my S3 and the Bontrager XXX Lite Carbon on my S5. The Fizik has minimal gel-type padding while the Bonty, being a full-carbon shell, has none.

I've ridden up to 70 miles on training rides on both, and I'm quite amazed how comfortable they are compared to conventional padded seats. I formerly rode on Fizik Ariones (padded).

Just wondering how it is possible that these hard all-carbon seats can be more comfortable than padded seats, and if anyone races on them?
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Old 10-20-11, 09:22 PM
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Old 10-20-11, 09:24 PM
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Yes.
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Ummmm...talkative aren't you? ;-)
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I just got a cheaper Ebay Merrek full carbon saddle and have only been on one ride with it so far. It was a 40 mile ride and I really hadn't adjusted it right for me... wasn't too bad once I found the right way to sit on it but it still needs some more adjustment. Took some getting used to. Will try again in the morning... it's very light though at only 100g.
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I also ride on Merek's on two bikes. I've done sprinting, long rides, everything on these saddles. I find them more comfortable than padded saddles. Everyone that looks at them says "I could never ride on those." It's hard to explain over & over that it flexes with you and provides ample support. So I don't try to sell it off or convince anyone (anymore).
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Did a century on my Merek, no problem. Just make sure to break in your ass before.
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I have 2 of the eBay Merek saddles.

5000+ miles this year, no probs!
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I also have the merek 95g saddle.

No problems. Longest ride this season was 110 miles. Most rides are 50-80. Again, no problems.

That said, saddles are highly subjective so what works for one person may not work for another.
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Curious...you guys with the 95g Merek saddles...how much do you weigh?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Curious...you guys with the 95g Merek saddles...how much do you weigh?
Thanks.
i have the 110g saddle just bc it's wider. i'm 175.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Curious...you guys with the 95g Merek saddles...how much do you weigh?
Thanks.
I am 144 pounds. 6 feet tall.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I am 144 pounds. 6 feet tall.
I bet you're fast. That is very light for 6' tall. I am 6' and 185 and most think I am skinny.
I figured there maybe a correlation between rider weight and ability to use a completely uppadded saddle.
Bet you won't see many above Inertia's weight of 175 on one.
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OK, I do have and had a full carbon saddle. The first one, Sella Italia C64. That is one nice saddle for me. I have a SLR Carbon on my rain bike and it is as comfortable. I am 6ft at 155lbs and hit a small pothole just right and broke the saddle. I was slightly upset but I do not know if it was breaking my favorite saddle or standing [pedalling] for 3 miles. I do not really know why it broke since I have hit much harder holes and not had any issues in the past. I am certain whatever happened, it was a perfect storm a broke.

I purchased a Selle Italia CX Zero full carbon saddle and it is much more stiff. To top it off, I had to buy a new post due to the integrated rail design. I like the fact that I can shove a tool kit, pump, and spare tube inside the saddle without much showing out the back. If I had my choice again, I would have bought another C64 and I think if you like the SLR's they offer, you should like the C64.

One other thing, the saddles are much more slippery when riding. You'll get used to it and it no longer bothers me, just like Speedplay pedals, the first time out you wonder what the hell did I just waste my money on this.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
I bet you're fast. That is very light for 6' tall. I am 6' and 185 and most think I am skinny.
I figured there maybe a correlation between rider weight and ability to use a completely uppadded saddle.
Bet you won't see many above Inertia's weight of 175 on one.
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Well I do have the body type of Andy Schleck.

But not his speed, that's for sure! Only in my dreams...
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I ride a Tune Speedneedle alcantara which isn't full carbon but has very minimal padding. I ride it all the time regardless of the situation. I have a couple centuries on it as well and absolutely looooove it. that being said, its very narrow and good luck finding one.
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I weigh 200 lb. and have a Merek Carbon 140mm Saddle and it works great for rides.
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I had one of the 100g ebay full carbon saddles. Loved it, very comfortable. Ended up developing cracks a few months after I got it so I stopped using it. I'm 180lbs btw.

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Originally Posted by mchacon01 View Post
I also ride on Merek's on two bikes. I've done sprinting, long rides, everything on these saddles. I find them more comfortable than padded saddles. Everyone that looks at them says "I could never ride on those." It's hard to explain over & over that it flexes with you and provides ample support. So I don't try to sell it off or convince anyone (anymore).
I had the same thing happen over and over when I was riding Unicanitor 55's. (The original bare nylon saddle, no leather, no padding, nothin' but comfort) Of course, none of the folks who made disparaging remarks about their "obvious" lack of comfort had ever bothered to RIDE one...

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Yes. K1 on both bikes.
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Back in my younger days (late 70's, early 80's) the hard plastic seats were popular on our BMX bikes. We'd ride around all day on those (with no padded-butt pants) and never have a problem.
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Back in my younger days (late 70's, early 80's) the hard plastic seats were popular on our BMX bikes. We'd ride around all day on those (with no padded-butt pants) and never have a problem.
I actually miss the old hard plastic saddle that I had on my Miyata road bike years ago, it was quite comfortable.
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Mereks on two bikes @144 lbs. It is the only saddle in all these years I would marry and I dated plenty.
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Has anyone had one of these saddles fail? How much mileage are people putting on them before they need to be replaced?
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