a middle-aged roadie's impressions of critical mass
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I think that once again depends on which CM you're referring to. I know of ones that intentionally start at 5pm on a Friday a couple blocks away from the busiest intersection downtown, while others roll at night or on the weekends with safety being the primary motivator for the route. There's one in Pasadena that rolls at 10am on a Saturday once a month, and the most common participants are entire families covering ages 5 to 50. They roll at about 10mph riding single file or two wide, and avoid major arterial roadways. For me personally, I don't know what separates that from a regular group ride, or what makes it a critical mass other than the riders' decision to call it such, but a name is a name.
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#127
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For all the talk about bad drivers, all the trouble is caused by a minuscule fraction. If it were any different, the roads would be a lot worse than they are.
Yesterday when I was walking my dog, I woman I'd never met asked me if I ran a stop sign the other day. Apparently, she'd seen a cyclist who she didn't quite make out blow through a stop sign a little after 6am get pulled over by a cop. She'd obviously seen me on the roads early before. I told her that I don't do things like that because people always appreciate the gesture of doing what you're supposed to, and that my treatment on the roads is better.
It was not a hostile conversation at all, and it was clear I struck a chord when I observed that drivers always seemed to appreciate it when I did the right thing even when it wasn't necessary on a purely practical level.
Curiously, I was able to figure out who the rider was. He's a nice enough guy, but he doesn't worry about stop signs if there are no cars there. He also has a commute that's over an hour each way so losing a few seconds isn't going to make any difference. The cops here are very equal opportunity about who the ticket, so I'm sure that messed up his day.
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These are the drivers who need to see the good side of cycling the most. Pissing them off confirms prejudices which they'll share with their friends/kids. Trying to reach people by getting in their face is as effective as political/religious yahoos trying to convert people by telling others they have it all wrong.
A lot of what is perceived as hostility towards cyclists is actually frustration with *anyone* that makes driving miserable -- just watch how the motorists treat each other. You need to expect and not get aggravated at what you know will happen -- right hooks, people pulling in front of you, screwballs buzzing you. Every time you get seen handling a crap situation with grace, you win big points with all witnesses. These people will be nicer to you in the future. And the people behind them will normally act the same way. This is why the technique of herding cars works.
Ride like you know what you're doing, treat others with respect and consideration, and you'll find the vast majority of drivers will do the same for you. Act like an idiot or a jackass, and people will smirk when they see you get what's coming to you.
I'm fond of saying you should treat cars like large, hostile dogs. You need to be calm and assert your presence without attitude/aggression. If you act clueless or ride with a chip on your shoulder, you will provoke them and the results are predictable. Pretending otherwise is as delusional as thinking you can wish away bad weather.
A lot of what is perceived as hostility towards cyclists is actually frustration with *anyone* that makes driving miserable -- just watch how the motorists treat each other. You need to expect and not get aggravated at what you know will happen -- right hooks, people pulling in front of you, screwballs buzzing you. Every time you get seen handling a crap situation with grace, you win big points with all witnesses. These people will be nicer to you in the future. And the people behind them will normally act the same way. This is why the technique of herding cars works.
Ride like you know what you're doing, treat others with respect and consideration, and you'll find the vast majority of drivers will do the same for you. Act like an idiot or a jackass, and people will smirk when they see you get what's coming to you.
I'm fond of saying you should treat cars like large, hostile dogs. You need to be calm and assert your presence without attitude/aggression. If you act clueless or ride with a chip on your shoulder, you will provoke them and the results are predictable. Pretending otherwise is as delusional as thinking you can wish away bad weather.
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This is not true. These drivers just happen to use the same form of transport as the people who do those things to you.
For all the talk about bad drivers, all the trouble is caused by a minuscule fraction. If it were any different, the roads would be a lot worse than they are.
Yesterday when I was walking my dog, I woman I'd never met asked me if I ran a stop sign the other day. Apparently, she'd seen a cyclist who she didn't quite make out blow through a stop sign a little after 6am get pulled over by a cop. She'd obviously seen me on the roads early before. I told her that I don't do things like that because people always appreciate the gesture of doing what you're supposed to, and that my treatment on the roads is better.
It was not a hostile conversation at all, and it was clear I struck a chord when I observed that drivers always seemed to appreciate it when I did the right thing even when it wasn't necessary on a purely practical level.
Curiously, I was able to figure out who the rider was. He's a nice enough guy, but he doesn't worry about stop signs if there are no cars there. He also has a commute that's over an hour each way so losing a few seconds isn't going to make any difference. The cops here are very equal opportunity about who the ticket, so I'm sure that messed up his day.
For all the talk about bad drivers, all the trouble is caused by a minuscule fraction. If it were any different, the roads would be a lot worse than they are.
Yesterday when I was walking my dog, I woman I'd never met asked me if I ran a stop sign the other day. Apparently, she'd seen a cyclist who she didn't quite make out blow through a stop sign a little after 6am get pulled over by a cop. She'd obviously seen me on the roads early before. I told her that I don't do things like that because people always appreciate the gesture of doing what you're supposed to, and that my treatment on the roads is better.
It was not a hostile conversation at all, and it was clear I struck a chord when I observed that drivers always seemed to appreciate it when I did the right thing even when it wasn't necessary on a purely practical level.
Curiously, I was able to figure out who the rider was. He's a nice enough guy, but he doesn't worry about stop signs if there are no cars there. He also has a commute that's over an hour each way so losing a few seconds isn't going to make any difference. The cops here are very equal opportunity about who the ticket, so I'm sure that messed up his day.
Perfectly good drivers do this time and time again. My wife is well aware of my cycling (she doesn't ride) and supports cyclists, but when I watch her drive, she buzzes cyclists wayyy closer than I would, and complains when they're rightfully hugging the side of a country road which is too small for us to pass and we're stuck behind them at 15mph for a minute or two. She also doesn't give them extra room or consideration at intersections, which I would do. I'm sure that in the wrong place at the wrong time, she'd accidentally cut someone off or block someone or not see a rider going into a right hook.
Again, my wife is an excellent driver, with a flawless drvigin track record. She just isn't a cyclist, and does drive with cyclists even remotely on her mind. It's just the reality of cyclists on the road. If we could raise awareness (in a nonconfrontational way about this), it helps. Every bit helps.
#131
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I did a Mayday CM in San Francisco. It was more militant, more a celebration of anarchy, than what's described in the OP's attached article. There were some terrible bicyclists that were a hazard to themselves and everyone, and there were some very skilled riders....watching the fixed gear riders come down some of those hills was a treat...as long as I wasn't along side of them. Our groups of 100s ran every red light, and were intentionally a barrier to cars trying to exit the city around 5pm, as well as pedestrians in the shopping district - yes, the consumers and cagers were furious. The police were not happy, but played along. And we got cheers too, lots of people exited stores and bars to cheer the group on, surreal.
So, my take away was two fold:
a) It's performance art. And, it's intended to get a rise out of you one way or the other.
b) I had the opinion that CM was counter-productive, that it invited some backlash from government and the public. But observing what's happened in SF in the last so many years, it seems like it sent the message bike riders are not going to be marginalized and ignored. The city has become loads more bike friendly, and I think CM get a little share of credit. The SF Bike Colalition gets the lions share of credit, but CM is lurking in the background ready to make its statement.
Ride it, your opinion might change.
So, my take away was two fold:
a) It's performance art. And, it's intended to get a rise out of you one way or the other.
b) I had the opinion that CM was counter-productive, that it invited some backlash from government and the public. But observing what's happened in SF in the last so many years, it seems like it sent the message bike riders are not going to be marginalized and ignored. The city has become loads more bike friendly, and I think CM get a little share of credit. The SF Bike Colalition gets the lions share of credit, but CM is lurking in the background ready to make its statement.
Ride it, your opinion might change.
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#132
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This is not true. These drivers just happen to use the same form of transport as the people who do those things to you.
For all the talk about bad drivers, all the trouble is caused by a minuscule fraction. If it were any different, the roads would be a lot worse than they are.
Yesterday when I was walking my dog, I woman I'd never met asked me if I ran a stop sign the other day. Apparently, she'd seen a cyclist who she didn't quite make out blow through a stop sign a little after 6am get pulled over by a cop. She'd obviously seen me on the roads early before. I told her that I don't do things like that because people always appreciate the gesture of doing what you're supposed to, and that my treatment on the roads is better.
It was not a hostile conversation at all, and it was clear I struck a chord when I observed that drivers always seemed to appreciate it when I did the right thing even when it wasn't necessary on a purely practical level.
Curiously, I was able to figure out who the rider was. He's a nice enough guy, but he doesn't worry about stop signs if there are no cars there. He also has a commute that's over an hour each way so losing a few seconds isn't going to make any difference. The cops here are very equal opportunity about who the ticket, so I'm sure that messed up his day.
For all the talk about bad drivers, all the trouble is caused by a minuscule fraction. If it were any different, the roads would be a lot worse than they are.
Yesterday when I was walking my dog, I woman I'd never met asked me if I ran a stop sign the other day. Apparently, she'd seen a cyclist who she didn't quite make out blow through a stop sign a little after 6am get pulled over by a cop. She'd obviously seen me on the roads early before. I told her that I don't do things like that because people always appreciate the gesture of doing what you're supposed to, and that my treatment on the roads is better.
It was not a hostile conversation at all, and it was clear I struck a chord when I observed that drivers always seemed to appreciate it when I did the right thing even when it wasn't necessary on a purely practical level.
Curiously, I was able to figure out who the rider was. He's a nice enough guy, but he doesn't worry about stop signs if there are no cars there. He also has a commute that's over an hour each way so losing a few seconds isn't going to make any difference. The cops here are very equal opportunity about who the ticket, so I'm sure that messed up his day.
#133
Portland Fred
I disagree. I'm not saying all drivers are awful - I actually think the vast majority of drivers are good people doing their best. But if you think drivers in general are going out of their way to look for a cyclist before reacting, think again...
Perfectly good drivers do this time and time again. My wife is well aware of my cycling (she doesn't ride) and supports cyclists, but when I watch her drive, she buzzes cyclists wayyy closer than I would, and complains when they're rightfully hugging the side of a country road which is too small for us to pass...
Perfectly good drivers do this time and time again. My wife is well aware of my cycling (she doesn't ride) and supports cyclists, but when I watch her drive, she buzzes cyclists wayyy closer than I would, and complains when they're rightfully hugging the side of a country road which is too small for us to pass...
What helps a lot is to open the lines of communication when you're riding. When one car passes too close, the ones behind tend to do the same. This is dangerous, particularly since some tailgaters who don't see you at all could have drifted a little right for whatever reason and could actually hit you. In such situations, I push out. It makes drivers uncomfortable and they don't like it, but they will shift out and the vehicles behind normally follow. As this happens, a friendly wave of acknowledgement for the room as you drift back helps encourage the others. If they start drifting too far right, you need to repeat the process.
I'll often wave to people who are still behind me if I see them cutting space. If I can tell they have good control, I'll signal for them to squeeze through because small clearances are not a problem with careful drivers. It makes a difference when drivers know you're looking out for them and appreciate any consideration you get. Eye contact helps too.
For the right hook and those who simply pull right without looking to see if anyone is there, you have to be careful, but there are things you can do. If they have to stop or slow down (they're frequently in a line of traffic) I hold my line as much as practical and if they're in my space, I make sure we're literally only 2" apart. If circumstances dictate they really should be yielding (i.e. it's obvious that I will be able to proceed before them), I'll pull right in front of them to remind them of my presence. I know they don't care about me, but they do care about scratching their car.
#134
Portland Fred
People do notice speeding cars on this street and do something about it. The cops issue lots of tickets, and the general feeling is that this is a good thing.
The only traffic law I break is that when I'm on my bike on this section of road, I often speed (I don't speed in the car). It's flat and the speed limit is 25. I've been trying to get a ticket, but no luck even with cops right behind me. I have received comments on my speed before. People don't seem to perceive it as dangerous, but it does seem to make them a bit uneasy.