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11-08-11, 01:29 PM
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I see what you're saying. But just for the sake of argument wouldn't the thinner walls make the strengthening interior tube more useful rather than less?
For more zero cost weight savings, bicycle helmets are 350-340 grams. I think there's potential savings there also. I know that my dollar store schwinn helmet has some extra straps and also some hard plastic pieces that aren't strictly necessary.
For more zero cost weight savings, bicycle helmets are 350-340 grams. I think there's potential savings there also. I know that my dollar store schwinn helmet has some extra straps and also some hard plastic pieces that aren't strictly necessary.
I went into the mountains yesterday and it was such a noticeable difference - most notably when I would look back to do traffic checks. There's a lot to be said for your statement.
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Relativity theory 101: "Get fat. The more you do, the lesser the bike's weight will be relatively relevant and will get relatively lighter and lighter until it gets get Speedy Light." -- Albert Einstein Not
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If the inner diameter is consistent, then yes, but that's not the case most of the time. That means there is a small gap between the seatpost and the seat tube. If anything, a long seatpost rocks back and forth slightly, scratching the inside of the tube (not a big deal, but you get the idea).
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11-08-11, 01:44 PM
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Which reminds me, unless I missed it you never did state what your weight is. Your weight might help us understand where you are coming from.
On a sidenote, read this thread. I might give you some insight into the weight on hills question.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ut-of-the-pack!
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All kidding aside I just went from a Large Giro Something to a Medium Giro Prolight and it's seriously half the weight. I have way better ventilation since it doesn't sit around my head but rather on my head. I still have all the protection I used to have but at half the weight.
I went into the mountains yesterday and it was such a noticeable difference - most notably when I would look back to do traffic checks. There's a lot to be said for your statement.
I went into the mountains yesterday and it was such a noticeable difference - most notably when I would look back to do traffic checks. There's a lot to be said for your statement.
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If the inner diameter is consistent, then yes, but that's not the case most of the time. That means there is a small gap between the seatpost and the seat tube. If anything, a long seatpost rocks back and forth slightly, scratching the inside of the tube (not a big deal, but you get the idea).
11-08-11, 02:03 PM
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Exactly, and it works with all materials. With metal, it's called butted tubing. I'm not sure if they call it that on carbon tubes.
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All kidding aside I just went from a Large Giro Something to a Medium Giro Prolight and it's seriously half the weight. I have way better ventilation since it doesn't sit around my head but rather on my head. I still have all the protection I used to have but at half the weight.
I went into the mountains yesterday and it was such a noticeable difference - most notably when I would look back to do traffic checks. There's a lot to be said for your statement.
I went into the mountains yesterday and it was such a noticeable difference - most notably when I would look back to do traffic checks. There's a lot to be said for your statement.
11-08-11, 02:23 PM
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11-08-11, 02:30 PM
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I'm surprised they would even try to blame it on that. Unless the manufacturer specifies a maximum seatpost insertion, it should be able to handle the tiny impacts caused by this.
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OP- There's nothing wrong with removing excess useless weight.
You can do it right here on BF too using the "ignore" option.
You can do it right here on BF too using the "ignore" option.
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dstrong: edit: I don't look to my bike to shave weight...I only need to look just above my beltline to know where I could shave weight at no cost. quote.
I agree, however if I was slim and trim it may be another story. When I bought my last bike I did so with not wanting any more weight than needed. After all why would a person carry more weight that they needed?
I think it was a good post. Name calling and being nasty is just childish and shows a persons true colors.
I agree, however if I was slim and trim it may be another story. When I bought my last bike I did so with not wanting any more weight than needed. After all why would a person carry more weight that they needed?
I think it was a good post. Name calling and being nasty is just childish and shows a persons true colors.
11-08-11, 04:26 PM
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Throw the stick!!!!
Thanks everyone for getting this thread back in line, and peaceful.
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I was very happy to have it replaced, though.
11-08-11, 04:54 PM
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11-08-11, 08:04 PM
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* (Check) Cut a good 15cm off that freeloader seat post. 50gr
* (Check) Have good and thorough dump before hitting road. 50 to 1500 gr, depending on who (or *what*) you are.
* (Check) Swap pedals with lighter ones. 50 gr. It has also the added benefit of lightening up your wallet.
* Shave all those ridiculous hair off your head. 10 to 500 gr, again depending on how hairy you are.
* Your newly tarted-up bald head will surely have better aero than that silly helmet. Get rid of it (no just the helmet). Better both in terms of grams and aero.
* And what are all those base layers and shorts and socks and gloves and shoes and all... They're for quiche eaters. HTFU and wear just an optional Speedo and have done with it. Lighter and sexier, though hopefully no one will notice it.
* And thinking of those lousy heavy tires... don't bare rims have less rolling resistance than that of tires? Both lighter and better rolling resistance. Don't worry about bumps and bends, as it's rather easy nowadays to find a jet runway. It has the added benefit of relatively lower traffic.
Please don't judge by singular savings, look at the big picture. :tongueincheek:
* (Check) Have good and thorough dump before hitting road. 50 to 1500 gr, depending on who (or *what*) you are.
* (Check) Swap pedals with lighter ones. 50 gr. It has also the added benefit of lightening up your wallet.
* Shave all those ridiculous hair off your head. 10 to 500 gr, again depending on how hairy you are.
* Your newly tarted-up bald head will surely have better aero than that silly helmet. Get rid of it (no just the helmet). Better both in terms of grams and aero.
* And what are all those base layers and shorts and socks and gloves and shoes and all... They're for quiche eaters. HTFU and wear just an optional Speedo and have done with it. Lighter and sexier, though hopefully no one will notice it.
* And thinking of those lousy heavy tires... don't bare rims have less rolling resistance than that of tires? Both lighter and better rolling resistance. Don't worry about bumps and bends, as it's rather easy nowadays to find a jet runway. It has the added benefit of relatively lower traffic.
Please don't judge by singular savings, look at the big picture. :tongueincheek:
11-08-11, 09:44 PM
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Interesting how people gang up on this guy for making a suggestion about saving a few grams (even if it is obvious), and yet asking whether it's worth spending hundreds of dollars to shave a few grams of an already light bike is a legitimate question on BF.
11-08-11, 09:50 PM
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Gang up? A couple of people made the case that his suggestion was an improvement even without the weight savings. Minus the noise I think it's been pretty balanced.
11-08-11, 10:25 PM
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* (Check) Cut a good 15cm off that freeloader seat post. 50gr
* (Check) Have good and thorough dump before hitting road. 50 to 1500 gr, depending on who (or *what*) you are.
* (Check) Swap pedals with lighter ones. 50 gr. It has also the added benefit of lightening up your wallet.
* Shave all those ridiculous hair off your head. 10 to 500 gr, again depending on how hairy you are.
* Your newly tarted-up bald head will surely have better aero than that silly helmet. Get rid of it (no just the helmet). Better both in terms of grams and aero.
* And what are all those base layers and shorts and socks and gloves and shoes and all... They're for quiche eaters. HTFU and wear just an optional Speedo and have done with it. Lighter and sexier, though hopefully no one will notice it.
* And thinking of those lousy heavy tires... don't bare rims have less rolling resistance than that of tires? Both lighter and better rolling resistance. Don't worry about bumps and bends, as it's rather easy nowadays to find a jet runway. It has the added benefit of relatively lower traffic.
Please don't judge by singular savings, look at the big picture. :tongueincheek:
* (Check) Have good and thorough dump before hitting road. 50 to 1500 gr, depending on who (or *what*) you are.
* (Check) Swap pedals with lighter ones. 50 gr. It has also the added benefit of lightening up your wallet.
* Shave all those ridiculous hair off your head. 10 to 500 gr, again depending on how hairy you are.
* Your newly tarted-up bald head will surely have better aero than that silly helmet. Get rid of it (no just the helmet). Better both in terms of grams and aero.
* And what are all those base layers and shorts and socks and gloves and shoes and all... They're for quiche eaters. HTFU and wear just an optional Speedo and have done with it. Lighter and sexier, though hopefully no one will notice it.
* And thinking of those lousy heavy tires... don't bare rims have less rolling resistance than that of tires? Both lighter and better rolling resistance. Don't worry about bumps and bends, as it's rather easy nowadays to find a jet runway. It has the added benefit of relatively lower traffic.
Please don't judge by singular savings, look at the big picture. :tongueincheek:
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11-08-11, 10:29 PM
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I am 178 lb age 47
recreational rider.I ride to work no matter the weather.Put about 120 miles a week.
Never raced nor plan to however I time my commute daily.
recreational rider.I ride to work no matter the weather.Put about 120 miles a week.
Never raced nor plan to however I time my commute daily.
11-08-11, 10:42 PM
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To all people who made a stink about this thread let me put this in dollar context.
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...type=cranksets
105 FC-5505 722g $140 average
Ultegra FC-6750 712g $250 average
Dura-Ace FC-7950 687g $500 average !!!!
Now difference of grams all three are less then 50g ! So why pay $500 for Dura Ace when trimming your seat-post gets you there free!
I think I made my point.
https://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...type=cranksets
105 FC-5505 722g $140 average
Ultegra FC-6750 712g $250 average
Dura-Ace FC-7950 687g $500 average !!!!
Now difference of grams all three are less then 50g ! So why pay $500 for Dura Ace when trimming your seat-post gets you there free!
I think I made my point.
11-08-11, 11:04 PM
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True, but that's a safe estimate by seatposts, while the frame also factors in there. Also, if you were to cut the seatpost, that line is no longer valid, if it's even there anymore.
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