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700C wheels are too large

Old 11-14-11, 09:24 PM
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700C wheels are too large

I think Road bikes should come with 650c standard, maybe 26". These big rolling hoops look goofy, and I'd warrant smaller wheels are more efficient as well.
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Old 11-14-11, 09:26 PM
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Old 11-14-11, 09:28 PM
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Two wheels are one to many. I think people should ride unicycles instead. It would improve people's balance and be more durable as well.
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Old 11-14-11, 09:30 PM
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I can see many people here too upset at all the money they wasted on technically inferior hula-hoop road bicycles, and are getting defensive.

Why are you all afraid of progress?
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This is a curious one.
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IDK I think I want some 675b wheels if I can get those (anyone know?). Which would be equivalent to a 26.66 diameter MTbike wheel.
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Well I thought if I even dared to question the almighty 700c, I'd be labelled as a troll anyway, so why not have fun with it?

Smaller wheels are lighter, strong, and more aerodynamic. I hardly doubt their negligible gain in rolling resistance cancels all of that out. I'm sure there's a point where smaller wheel disadvantages start to outweight their advantages, but I really don't think 700c is it.

Why has noone done studies on this?
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IDK I think I want some 675b wheels if I can get those (anyone know?). Which would be equivalent to a 26.66 diameter MTbike wheel.
That's Da' Debil!

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Well I thought if I even dared to question the almighty 700c, I'd be labelled as a troll anyway, so why not have fun with it?

Smaller wheels are lighter, strong, and more aerodynamic. I hardly doubt their negligible gain in rolling resistance cancels all of that out. I'm sure there's a point where smaller wheel disadvantages start to outweight their advantages, but I really don't think 700c is it.

Why has noone done studies on this?

But it's way easier to find 700c tires and tubes at the LBS.
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all I hear is:
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But it's way easier to find 700c tires and tubes at the LBS.
Than 650c? Sure. But 26" !? No way.

But lets take away tube and tyre availability and all that - where would the optimum wheel size be? Just purely from physics. I may try and bust out some maths here at one stage so be warned.
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Originally Posted by MikeyBoyAz View Post
all I hear is:
"Bla Bla Bla, Listen to me!" Said the Troll.
If you continue to post off-topic posts to this thread, as well as large distracting images, I will have no choice but to report you to the moderators. Thank-you for your cooperation.
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so... no math?
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Originally Posted by MikeyBoyAz View Post
so... no math?
Yeah where's the maf?
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I hear a lot of accusations of trolling, but not one compelling reason for these gargantuan 700c wheels other than "there's more tubes available".

And for those of you who think i'm crazy... why stop at 700c? why not 36"er wheels, as featured on some mountainbikes? Surely they'd smooth out even more bumps and have even less rolling resistance, right?
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Yeah where's the maf?
I'm stuck on how to model the contact patch of the tyre. The rotational mechanics stuff is all pretty easy.
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Originally Posted by Violet View Post
Than 650c? Sure. But 26" !? No way.

But lets take away tube and tyre availability and all that - where would the optimum wheel size be? Just purely from physics. I may try and bust out some maths here at one stage so be warned.
Physics? You're asking the wrong guy. I'm a roofer.
I guess, 20" tires would make the most sense if smaller is better.

And by all means...

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BF math always makes for a good thread.
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