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Old 12-05-11, 08:58 PM
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Be Envious...

If anyone's interested in a 1.0, Enve
has them on their site at only $513.,
but there's some sort of "Dark Deal"
where they have a 43 listed for only $300!

https://www.enve.com/forks/1.0/darkdeals.aspx

Someone better jump on that!


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Old 12-05-11, 09:15 PM
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Sorry, not really interested in a non-aero fork that costs $1 per gram... even if it says Enve on the side... but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by EdIsMe View Post
Sorry, not really interested in a non-aero fork that costs $1 per gram... even if it says Enve on the side... but that's just me.
Why?
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Old 12-06-11, 06:36 AM
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It's a lot of money for a sticker that says "Enve" on it on top of a pretty normal looking, but light fork.
That same $300 could buy you some very nice options from the competition.

This may not be the best example, but nashbar sells a 350g carbon fork for half the price. https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_202441
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
Be Enveous
FTFY...

(sorry, couldn't resist)
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Originally Posted by EdIsMe View Post
Sorry, not really interested in a non-aero fork that costs $1 per gram... even if it says Enve on the side... but that's just me.
So, you'd like it better if it weighed 600 grams, and was 50 cents a gram?

Seems to make more sense to express this sort of equation as the ratio of dollars to grams saved, as oppossed to dollars to grams.
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Old 12-06-11, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by climber7 View Post
FTFY...

(sorry, couldn't resist)
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Old 12-06-11, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EdIsMe View Post
It's a lot of money for a sticker that says "Enve" on it on top of a pretty normal looking, but light fork.
That same $300 could buy you some very nice options from the competition.

This may not be the best example, but nashbar sells a 350g carbon fork for half the price. https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...7_10000_202441
Is the Nashbar fork "better" (real world performance, stiffness, more areo, etc...)
than the Enve?


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
So, you'd like it better if it weighed 600 grams, and was 50 cents a gram?

Seems to make more sense to express this sort of equation as the ratio of dollars to grams saved, as oppossed to dollars to grams.
Exactly. Besides, at $300. at that weight and for a high quality proven fork that's a known entity, it's one of the absolute best deals going objectively speaking. I was waiting for an answer saying "I ride at 25mph consistently and aero is more important than weight." But, judging from the Nashbar example, I see it being aero really doesn't matter if its' cheap enough.


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Old 12-06-11, 11:58 AM
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About a year or so ago I got an Easton Ec90 Slx Carbon Road Bike Fork. Wouldn't make you an even trade for that one even now.
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
About a year or so ago I got an Easton Ec90 Slx Carbon Road Bike Fork. Wouldn't make you an even trade for that one even now.
I considered the Easton, but read of how noodly it was for riders over 200lbs.
Did you ever try an Edge/Enve fork before getting the Easton?
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I"m over 200, well 202. Not noodly at all... and no, this one replaced my OEM CAAD9 fork.
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
I"m over 200, well 202. Not noodly at all... and no, this one replaced my OEM CAAD9 fork.
Just about every mention of the Easton for heavier riders said it was nowhere near as stiff as the Edge. I didn't get a chance to test ride either of the two before purchasing, so I can't speak out of experience.

I was set on the Edge 2.0 because it was only 350g and $400., but got the Edge 1.0 for $395. It had the "look" I wanted for my BBQ CAAD9 and knocked off a good 250g off the bike. I would never have spent $700. on a fork.

I didn't know how "soft" my bike was until I upgraded it. Compared to the OEM Ultra, the main word I can use to describe the Edge fork is "transforming" for my bike. Combined with the uber-stiff Ksyrium Elites, it just stiffened my bike up better than Viagra. I lost a full pound off my front end.

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I saw the Enve fork before, and was shocked at the price. Can anyone tell me what's so awesome about it, other than the decal?
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I saw the Enve fork before, and was shocked at the price. Can anyone tell me what's so awesome about it, other than the decal?
Marketing, American labor, 50g lighter than the 2.0 at twice the price. Well, $300 on sale but still crazy considering it's a fork. Cycling in general is crazy.

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2ndGen was right to post this - it is a great deal on one of the best forks for stiffness, tracking, lightness, and looks.
I sell ENVE forks and this is a stunning deal.

Don't forget the cost ramps up with lighter weight. It takes a lot of engineering and R&D to make a sub 300-gram fork as good as the ENVE, and made in-house under high quality control parameters.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
I saw the Enve fork before, and was shocked at the price. Can anyone tell me what's so awesome about it, other than the decal?
It is considered to be one of the absolute best forks produced.
WeighWeenies love them. They come as standard equipment
on custom bikes. They are stiff, light and I have never heard
of one of them asploding. I'm not saying it's never happened,
I've just never come across anything but glowing reviews for them.
The Edge 1.0 (the one I have) is made in Utah, USA (fitting for my frame).

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And, I found that a lot of CAAD owners who had built up their bikes had a preference
for either Edge/Enve or 3T (which is the other fork I'd consider seriously for any CAAD).

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Originally Posted by teterider View Post
2ndGen was right to post this - it is a great deal on one of the best forks for stiffness, tracking, lightness, and looks.
I sell ENVE forks and this is a stunning deal.

Don't forget the cost ramps up with lighter weight. It takes a lot of engineering and R&D to make a sub 300-gram fork as good as the ENVE, and made in-house under high quality control parameters.
The 2.0 was my max $-wise, but I was glad to get the 1.0 at $395. when I did.
I feel very comfortable on an Edge/Enve product while flying down the road at 30+mph.
It's worth the entry-fee IMO (the peace of mind I get from using a tested product).

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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
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How much does a Cervelo FK30 SL (tapered 1 3/8") weigh?
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My slightly used 6-13 frame cost only $300 and the fork weighs 425 grams ... Not too bad.
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No doubt it's one of the best forks on the market, bar none. I'm still telling my wife that all the stuff coming in from realcyclist are just her christmas presents. She is asking about the new capo and castelli stuff I'm wearing, but I tell her I've had it honey, you just haven't noticed it before....... if I spent money on a new fork, I'd be moving in with 2ndGen
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actually that one is 295 gm and my easton is 345. for the price difference, I'm still happy.
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
No doubt it's one of the best forks on the market, bar none. I'm still telling my wife that all the stuff coming in from realcyclist are just her christmas presents. She is asking about the new capo and castelli stuff I'm wearing, but I tell her I've had it honey, you just haven't noticed it before....... if I spent money on a new fork, I'd be moving in with 2ndGen

My wife tells me;
"That stuff is going to look great on you when you're sleeping in the street."
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I've been thinking of getting a full carbon fork. What do stock carbon/alu forks typically weigh in at? I couldn't find a spec on mine and don't have a scale.
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I've been thinking of getting a full carbon fork. What do stock carbon/alu forks typically weigh in at? I couldn't find a spec on mine and don't have a scale.
This should help you... Fork Weights
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So you have to be over 190lb to get a good ride quality?
Only 70 more lbs to gain!
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