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wow very trusting, $6000 bike unlocked and unattended!

Old 12-09-11, 06:19 PM
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wow very trusting, $6000 bike unlocked and unattended!

Saw the oddest thing today. Went to fairfax,ca for a little breakfast drive. Saw a bunch of nice unattended unlocked road bikes in front of a bakery. No more room so off to the side was a titanium seven. All the riders were inside the bakery having lunch/snack. The group of bikes could be seen from the bakery window. Even then a thief could've been off before they even stood up from the table. But the seven was out of their sight.

I get nervous when my $1100 bike is locked and out of my sight. Can't imagine how much faith in your fellow man you'd have to leave your $6000 bike out of sight and unlocked while you eat a muffin.

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Old 12-09-11, 06:29 PM
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Depends on the area. Yesterday I took my little sister to Starbucks there was a Colnago just left in the open. The owner went inside to order then use the bathroom. Came out with coffee and something else without a care in the world.

Last month at the Post Office a guy put his Madone outside. Spent 20 mins in line waiting to post a package then came out and left.
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Old 12-09-11, 06:34 PM
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I hear that ricebowl,that bike is not going to be there when the rider comes back one time. I left my 1100.00 dollar bike out of sight one time and it was still there when i got back.As i was eating lunch i realized what a stupid move it was to leave it unattended,so i was expecting it to be gone. Never again will i do that, i got lucky.
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Old 12-09-11, 06:58 PM
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Come to Socal or Norcal. $10k bikes left outside routinely in Malibu, race wheels and all. (There usually are a lot of other cyclists milling about these areas, though.)
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Old 12-09-11, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ricebowl View Post
Saw the oddest thing today. Went to fairfax,ca for a little breakfast drive. Saw a bunch of nice unattended unlocked road bikes in front of a bakery. No more room so off to the side was a titanium seven. All the riders were inside the bakery having lunch/snack. The group of bikes could be seen from the bakery window. Even then a thief could've been off before they even stood up from the table. But the seven was out of their sight.
Sounds like a good description of our group ride today - but we were in Dublin, not Fairfax. I didn't even bother using the cable lock that I always carry on my '84 Specialized since I figured that any thief would rather go for the Seven or one of the other new and pricey models.
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Old 12-09-11, 07:26 PM
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Bike locks only keep honest people honest. If a random person took a 6000 bike, they would not know what to do with it. If it was someone with a plan to steal nice bikes, they would probably get them if they REALLY wanted them.
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Old 12-09-11, 07:45 PM
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Yeah, in norcal, it's sometimes quite regular to see a group of ten 5-7000 dollar bikes just leaning against the wall of the coffee shop. Really just depends on the area. No way in hell would I ever do it.
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Old 12-09-11, 07:48 PM
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Yea we went in to an Irish Pub after a 70 mile winter pace ride, no windows and getting dark we left about 10 bikes varying from 1k to 5k out there for at least an hour! Will probably need to rethink that one and not repeat.
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Old 12-09-11, 07:57 PM
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I can't imagine doing that. I've left my bike outside of gas stations while I grabbed something to drink, and my eyes were looking outside towards my bike the entire time. I can't imagine actually leaving it out of my sight though.
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Old 12-09-11, 08:00 PM
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Short straw has to stay with the bikes .
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Will probably need to rethink that one and not repeat.

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Old 12-09-11, 08:09 PM
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no way would I leave my bike out without being able to see it!
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Old 12-09-11, 09:51 PM
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Bike theft is rampant in the yuppie Marin towns. I would not leave a bike out-of-sight without a lock.
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My club always stops by coffee shops and leaves their bikes in the front while they are inside. At first it made me nervous, but then I realized that a thief can only make off with so many bikes at one time and with my bike being about 1/3 the value of most of the other eight bikes sitting next to it, I'm pretty sure it would have been one of the bikes they left behind.
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Old 12-09-11, 10:35 PM
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And the lesson is: always ride in a group where your ride is in the 50th percentile cost-wise.
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I ride with a couple of guys that don't mind leaving their bikes out of sight while they get a cup of coffee. I ALWAYS keep my bike where I can see it.
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I walk my bike right into the coffee shop and convenience store, never had a problem. Plenty of x-mart bikes get stolen here, so I'm not gonna leave any of my bikes unlocked and unattended!
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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
Sounds like a good description of our group ride today - but we were in Dublin, not Fairfax. I didn't even bother using the cable lock that I always carry on my '84 Specialized since I figured that any thief would rather go for the Seven or one of the other new and pricey models.
that's my philosophy too. always underdress...
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Old 12-09-11, 11:15 PM
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I dont lock my bike at my coffee shop of choice. you have to pass several starbucks to get to it. and it sits on one of the highest peaks in the city. plus my bike is not visible from the street when you are up there. you kinda have to have a reason to be up there. The ride up there can be a pain and I passed out or thrown up once or twice. but I like the place and the people there, and I have known a lot of them for years.
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Old 12-10-11, 12:08 AM
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I've only seen it once or twice, but I love the looks on their faces when the baitcar begins sputtering and the lights go off behind them...


And call me sick, but I look forward to the day someone touches my bike while I'm waiting in line for my coffee, water or calories.

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Old 12-10-11, 12:33 AM
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I have left my Serotta outside the coffee shop / gas station etc. The average thief is going to steal a Trek, Specialized, Giant etc as they have no idea that a Seven, Kirk, IF, Serotta or other custom bike is probably way more expensive than mass-produced bikes.

Most cyclists don't know how much customs cost, they see the brands that sponsor the tour teams and those and the big box store brands are the only ones they recognize.

It's not like there are a bunch of rappers or NBA wanna-be rappers are out there riding custom bikes that the papparazzi snaps photos of and puts on the gossip web sites or TMZ. Those guys are showing off Bentleys, Ferrari's and Maserati's...

One of my employees had his Wal-Mart mtb stolen from our parking lot in broad daylight. Someone saw the thief pull out cable cutters, snip the cable and take off on the bike. A couple of the employees gave chase but the thief did a crazy-man ride across 6 lanes of traffic and they wisely stopped.

I gave my employee my early 90's Trek 820 that had been hanging in my garage for years and he was amazed how much nicer it rode than his crappy old bike. He told me he had thought it would be a pos since it didn't look as nice as the bike that was stolen and that he had never ridden anything but big box bikes.

The thief obviously didn't know any better either.

BTW, we're in a pretty good area and the police were amazed that there was a bike theft there.
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Old 12-10-11, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kf9yr View Post
It's not like there are a bunch of rappers or NBA wanna-be rappers are out there riding custom bikes that the papparazzi snaps photos of and puts on the gossip web sites or TMZ. Those guys are showing off Bentleys, Ferrari's and Maserati's...
Sorry, I don't think you did enough to propagate offensive stereotypes here.

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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
Sounds like a good description of our group ride today - but we were in Dublin, not Fairfax. I didn't even bother using the cable lock that I always carry on my '84 Specialized since I figured that any thief would rather go for the Seven or one of the other new and pricey models.
A thief is going to nick the Specialized or a Trek first, unless the thief just happens to be a cycling enthusiast who knows the value of a Seven or Serotta. And even if the thief did know, he'd probably still take the Specialized first because it would be easier to fence.
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Old 12-10-11, 08:10 AM
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There's a running joke in my cycle club that if any enterprising bike theif wanted to hit the motherload they'd just drive a dumptruck up to the local coffee shop/cyclist magnet and start loading the 15-30 high end road bikes that are parked out front unlocked every single weekend.

Our club also runs a 12-week progressive training/coaching program every Spring (and has for the past 25 years) that invariably involves upwards of 200 cyclists on any given Saturday riding out to a diner in Northern New Jersey, spending an hour eating/talking, and then continuing the ride. In 25 years of leaving all those unlocked bikes outside and out of sight, no one has ever had one stolen. Go figger.
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Old 12-10-11, 08:11 AM
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Aren't our bikes covered by homeowners insurance? If so, you are only out the deductible. That said, most of my group ride nicer bikes than mine, but mine is usually cleaner. Would that attract a thief??
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Back in the day, my future wife, her brother and I had stopped at a pizza shop for lunch during a ride. Even though we had parked our bikes in front of the shop window, we were distracted enough that thieves made off with two of the three bikes. Gone were the Fuji Royale and Trek 420, but my Super Record Guerciotti Jet was untouched.

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