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Old 12-13-11, 01:55 PM
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Another dog that might be easily confused for a pit bull but is not.
And is very genetically similar but is an AKC breed.
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Or this dog. Can you tell me if this dog is a pit bull biskilet?

I'll give you a hint. It's not. It's also an AKC certified breed.
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Not a pit bull.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
I would say a lot of the dogs that have chased me (and there have been a lot) just wanted to play. I think the only pit out of all the dozens of dogs that has chased me on the bike wanted to play because she totally looked like I hurt her feelings when I yelled at her (whatever else she did stop immediately anyway). There have for sure been some that wanted to bite too though. Fortunately a lot of those weren't big enough to be a serious threat.
Yes, most probably won't bite. My lab-pit mix is the biggest baby most of the time, and gets his feelings hurt rather easily, especially if your tone of voice implies in the least that you're questioning his decisions at the moment.

However, I also saw him catch and kill a tree rat in about 3 seconds. It was like pulling a trigger when he went- there's no way he was veering off his predetermined course of action once he committed. I imagine most dog bites are like that...
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
As far as mis-identifying the dogs, would you call this a pit bull:

A lot of people would, and they would be wrong. It's a presa canario mentioned earlier in this thread. Great example of how that website is wrong.
The answer is in the links.

But you're not reading the links I've posted. Are you? Let me quote then..

https://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-do...bull-myths.php
Myth #2: It's impossible to identify a pit bull

Pit bull advocates frequently claim that the average person cannot correctly identify a pit bull. As discussed in the Pit Bull FAQ, the pit bull is a class of dogs made up of several close breeds (See: What is a pit bull type dog?). This false claim is designed to confuse the public just as the pit bull breed's history of changing names is intended to do (See: Disguise breed name). As recently told to us by a top U.S. animal control enforcement officer, "If it looks like a pit bull, it usually is."

Pit bull advocates have even created deceptive online tests (Find the Pit Bull) to further confuse the media, policymakers and the public. These tests are inaccurate and intentionally crafted to show that the average person could not correctly identify a pit bull. DogsBite.org has created a more realistic test that shows a variety of popular dog breeds. Once one begins to understand the frame, posture and distinct head and jaw size of a pit bull type dog, identification is immediate.
Can you identify the pit bull?
Never mind. As I've said before, pitbull owners just won't quit.

B'soir.
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Originally Posted by bisiklet View Post
The answer is in the links.

But you're not reading the links I've posted. Are you? Let me quote then..

https://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-do...bull-myths.php

Never mind. As I've said before, pitbull owners just won't quit.

B'soir.
I'm not a pit bull owner I'm just not an idiot.

If the test is supposed to gauge whether or not the public can effectively differentiate a pit bull it only makes sense that you would have to pick it out of dogs that look similar to it.
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Originally Posted by bisiklet View Post
The answer is in the links.

But you're not reading the links I've posted. Are you? Let me quote then..

https://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-do...bull-myths.php

Never mind. As I've said before, pitbull owners just won't quit.

B'soir.
I did read the links and noticed they did the opposite and posted a bunch of breeds completely dissimilar to a pit bull. Point is all you have to do to get a lot of large dogs with short hair to look like a pit bull in some people's minds is crop the ears. And again, you're completely dismissing pit bull owners who are the people with the most experience with the animals. That's a completely ignorant way to behave and probably shoots a bigger hole in your assertation than anything else you've said.

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Not a pit bull.

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BAN DASHUNDS, not Pits or Rotties or Dobies.



He's worse than ALL of them.
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BAN DASHUNDS, not Pits or Rotties or Dobies.



He's worse than ALL of them.
Lol. A dashund owner told me once that their name comes from German for 'badger dog'. Apparently these guys were bred to go down badger holes and grab said badger by the face and pull him out. I guess that's where their fierceness comes from .
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Dogs are tough, often in surprising ways. We had a Yorkie that kept a two acre parcel free of ground squirrels. True to his nature, I guess. When he, uh, "left" one day, the squirrels came back with a vengeance and decimated almost all the small plants, including the grape vines covering a 15 foot arbor.

Most people thought he became coyote chow. I like to think he ran off to join the circus.
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Luckily I've had little or no experience being chased by dogs while riding.
I do however frequent a dog park with my Weimaraner (NOT a Pit Bull type dog),
there are usually 3 or 4 Pit type dogs there, all friendly all play really nice with the other dogs.
And Bisiklet, there is a wolf who frequents the park, pure 100% wolf not a hybrid,
very nice animal but make no mistake, he isn't a dog.
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https://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
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Just stop. You're so bad at this.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
Lol. A dashund owner told me once that their name comes from German for 'badger dog'. Apparently these guys were bred to go down badger holes and grab said badger by the face and pull him out. I guess that's where their fierceness comes from .
Oh yes, the same with Jack Russells, bred to attack varmints in holes. I've heard them called "Terror Terriers".
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Okay, this has been just loads of fun, but it's NOT the place to argue about
various dog breeds.
Talk about your options when dogs attack, talk about close calls but
no more breed specific posts.
oh yah almost forgot, to the OP, heal up quick.

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Originally Posted by bisiklet View Post
https://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm
I don't know why you're so flurfy about pitbulls, when German Shepherds account for a much higher proportion of dog bites in this country, at least for children.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.or...17/3/e374.full
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I'm not arguing with you anymore. There's a quote somewhere about not arguing with fools - something along the lines of they'll drag you down to their level and there beat you with their vast experience. That is applicable at this point.
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sheesh - never thought this thread would get to the point I'd prefer a guns on bikes thread.
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Luckily I've had little or no experience being chased by dogs while riding.
I do however frequent a dog park with my Weimaraner (NOT a Pit Bull type dog),
there are usually 3 or 4 Pit type dogs there, all friendly all play really nice with the other dogs.
And Bisiklet, there is a wolf who frequents the park, pure 100% wolf not a hybrid,
very nice animal but make no mistake, he isn't a dog.
That's cool - does someone bring him? Surely he just doesn't show up and play on his own. A long time ago a friend of mine had a wolf hybrid. Dang that dog was huge! Probably one of the biggest dogs I've seen.
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I'm not arguing with you anymore.
You left that long ago.
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It's been a while...we need another "do you wave?" thread.


Did the fonts on the board change???
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Ravenmore, nah his owner brings him.
It's really funny to see the reaction people have to him.
Parents actually push their kids behind them, you'd think it was Little Red Riding hood all over
again.
I look at my Weim and think he's thousands of years removed from a wolf, then look at
Wolford and .... well you get the picture.
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Where are all the posters who claim "dogs don't bite cyclists", and "they just just want to play", and "all you have to do is look sternly at them or raise your voice a little and they won't bother you", and "just act like the big dog and they'll know who's boss", and "if you really knew how to handle dogs this wouldn't happen"?

OP- heal well, and quickly.
Oh, they're here. I didn't know the redneck-who-lets-his-pitbull-run-at-large contingent was so well represented on the Internet! Generally, they spend their time determining their relative manhood by measuring to see who has the biggest dog under their porch!

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Actually, my dog (okay, I won't post another picture of him) got out of the yard a week or two ago and I was aghast when he was waiting for me in the front yard when I got home. My first thought was that I hoped he hadn't chased any cyclists! If we're leaving him alone all day, we put him inside now. So far he hasn't torn up the place.
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