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wkg 01-01-12 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by sleepy (Post 13662870)
Why do they even sell bikes with such long steerer tubes if it's all gonna get slammed? Why not just sell the bikes with stems slammed already?

Because old people sometimes have bad backs.

If you get a custom geometry bike there's no reason for the long steerer tube. It boggles my mind when somebody shows up with a Seven that has spacers under the stem.

Slam that ****.

sleepy 01-01-12 11:49 AM

Fixies= No Brakes!

Road= Slam it!

Inertianinja 01-01-12 12:31 PM

anyone have a good source for low-rise top caps?

both my bikes are "slammed" but have like 15mm top caps.

wkg 01-01-12 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Inertianinja (Post 13663031)
anyone have a good source for low-rise top caps?

both my bikes are "slammed" but have like 15mm top caps.

FSA, Cane Creek, etc

Most headset manufacturers make one.

JoeyC68 01-01-12 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dean V (Post 13662089)
Slamming the stem is for looks and vanity. The "more aggressive riding position" reason is a joke. Fast cyclists for have for years been as low as possible and you don't need a big saddle to bar drop to achieve it. Just need to hold the drops and bend your elbows. Look at old videos of someone like Francesco Moser hammering it and see how low he gets with a lot less drop than what is the fashion now.

http://ivanbassoofficial.com/sites/d...QUIGAS-web.jpg
http://cdn0.media.cyclingnews.future...llview_600.jpg





You sir, would be incorrect. Plenty of pros "slam" their stems. It just comes down to what you prefer and your flexibility. Cav is one of the most aero sprinters ever.

rpeterson 01-01-12 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Dean V (Post 13662089)
Slamming the stem is for looks and vanity. The "more aggressive riding position" reason is a joke. Fast cyclists for have for years been as low as possible and you don't need a big saddle to bar drop to achieve it. Just need to hold the drops and bend your elbows. Look at old videos of someone like Francesco Moser hammering it and see how low he gets with a lot less drop than what is the fashion now.

Yeah, and screw that newfangled aluminum crap too, bikes were better off without it. And what's up with those thick carbon "aero" tubes, steel tubes were way smaller, they're obviously faster.

sleepy 01-01-12 01:41 PM

Man, folks be touchy doochi about slamming it to their stemz.


Originally Posted by JoeyC68 (Post 13663141)
You sir, would be incorrect. Plenty of pros "slam" their stems. It just comes down to what you prefer and your flexibility. Cav is one of the most aero sprinters ever.

That's true. But I'd wager the majority of people on this Forum, and Joe Roadie are not pros.

and1homer 01-01-12 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 13662847)

Bah. Now flip it.

:P

tony2v 01-01-12 04:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Slammed and with traditional round bars.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=232177

miyata man 01-01-12 04:15 PM

1 Attachment(s)
You can slam a quill stem too. I'm too lazy to take a "Proper" photo without excess-ories.

sbxx1985 01-01-12 04:30 PM

Is that a sleeping bag under your bars?

thehammerdog 01-01-12 04:32 PM

While Impressive to look at the slammed stem if effective only is the rider is flexible in the hips and back. Otherwise it is not helping the rider at all.
I wonder how slammed was Eddy or Lances stem???

:thumb:

Bob Ross 01-01-12 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by wkg (Post 13662900)
If you get a custom geometry bike there's no reason for the long steerer tube. It boggles my mind when somebody shows up with a Seven that has spacers under the stem.

A guy showed up on my ride today riding a beautiful titanium Indy Fab custom bike...with six inches of spacers under the stem. I am not kidding. Half a foot.

Now try to imagine how completely ***ed up any "custom geometry" would have to be to make his negative saddle>bar drop work. 18" headtube? I don't think so. Where would you attach the toptube, and how would that impact torsional response?

and1homer 01-01-12 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by thehammerdog (Post 13663741)
I wonder how slammed was Eddy or Lances stem?

Doesn't look like a lot.

Armstrong

http://acursoryglance.net/wp-content...armstrong1.jpg
http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/200...rong_adh01.jpg
http://www.veloprints.com/Images/lance_armstrong_1.jpg

Merckx

http://www.sportstoursinternational....mages/6018.jpg
http://www.bikerconnection.de/joomla...ddy_Merckx.jpg

Inertianinja 01-01-12 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by brian416 (Post 13661210)

This is AWESOME.

hailandkill 01-01-12 08:01 PM

http://acursoryglance.net/wp-content...armstrong1.jpg

OT: why the sti rear shifter and downtube front?

Propofol 01-01-12 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by hailandkill (Post 13664569)
http://acursoryglance.net/wp-content...armstrong1.jpg

OT: why the sti rear shifter and downtube front?

Because those guys stay on the big chainring...ALL THE TIME. :)

Mr. Fly 01-01-12 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by hailandkill (Post 13664569)
http://acursoryglance.net/wp-content...armstrong1.jpg

OT: why the sti rear shifter and downtube front?

Because that's his weight-weenie bike.

echappist 01-01-12 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by tony2v (Post 13663668)
Slammed and with traditional round bars.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=232177

That is one P-R-O bike, though do i see a -6 stem as opposed to a -17 stem;)?

RoboIsGod 01-01-12 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by hailandkill (Post 13664569)
http://acursoryglance.net/wp-content...armstrong1.jpg

OT: why the sti rear shifter and downtube front?

Actually, all the pictures posted were with the same set up- STI rear shifter and downtube front. This set up was used for mountainous races where the lightest possible bike was desired. Pretty neat. I don't think this lasted past the 90's, but it would be interesting to see how long Lance kept that set up.

EDIT: I just looked the pics over and in this one he is riding a 10-speed bike with a downtube front shifter: http://www.veloprints.com/Images/lance_armstrong_1.jpg

coasting 01-01-12 10:43 PM

Stem slamming...is that what the kids do these days? We used to sniff glue.

megalowmatt 01-01-12 11:30 PM

On a forum where a "proper fitting" or a handful of mm moving cleat, saddle or stem length is portrayed as paramount to riding a bicycle correctly, arbitrarily "slamming" stems as low as they will go seems ironic.

:crash:

jonathdo 01-01-12 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by kaliayev (Post 13661963)
What's funny is how many left so many spacers above the stem after slamming it.

resale value...

ilovecycling 01-02-12 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by megalowmatt (Post 13665337)
On a forum where a "proper fitting" or a handful of mm moving cleat, saddle or stem length is portrayed as paramount to riding a bicycle correctly, arbitrarily "slamming" stems as low as they will go seems ironic.

:crash:

If you look at it that way then yeah, but IMO one should take into account the geometry of the frame including head tube height before riding it. You can also play with stem length and angle to achieve the appropriate riding position, but you're also getting a cleaner looking and more rigid front end without that stack of spacers shifting around under load.

I say slam it when possible. If you need a taller front end for whatever reason then you still have the option of inverting the stem.

veloboy971 01-02-12 07:34 AM

It's not slammed if you have spacers under the stem :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 13661098)
I'm planning to slam my stem.

Would love to see any pics of slammed stems here and know the sizes & brands of your conical spacers.
I'm thinking about going with a 15-10mm spacer under the stem. I already have a flush carbon top cap.

Thanks.

:thumbup:

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...4_1345-5-1.jpg


Originally Posted by frpax (Post 13661601)
Had one 5mm spacer on my LeMond:

http://velospace.org/files/lemond6-10vs.JPG



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