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plx 01-01-12 12:10 PM

Cycletrainer tires
 
I am going to buy a tacx flow or satori, can i use my normal vittoria zaffiro tires or do i need to buy special trainer tires?
what happens if i use this tires? will i screw up the trainer?

thks

gregf83 01-01-12 12:12 PM

Depends how often you plan to ride. I don't do more than a dozen, or so, trainer rides a year so I don't change tires on a KK trainer. Some trainers are harder on tires than others. Regardlesss of what tire you use you won't hurt the trainer.

plx 01-01-12 12:29 PM

i plan on using them a lot. i'll buy a special tire in a few weeks but for now i'll have to use my normal tire, just wanted to know if there is any problem.
i heard that they wear quite fast, is it true?

Velo Dog 01-01-12 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by plx (Post 13663020)
i plan on using them a lot. i'll buy a special tire in a few weeks but for now i'll have to use my normal tire, just wanted to know if there is any problem.
i heard that they wear quite fast, is it true?

They'll wear a little, but so what? Tires wear out. You bought the bike and the trainer to use, so use them.

canam73 01-01-12 12:48 PM

Another reason for the trainer specific tire is that they don't throw off the black rubber 'dust' that regular tires will. Not a problem if you go in a garage but if you're in a finished room it can be a mess.

I typically put an old tire that I have retired from road use on to a cheap rear wheel that I bought for the purpose and run that. You won't get a flat or break a spoke on the trainer.

gsteinb 01-01-12 12:58 PM

They throw yellow shreds instead. I didn't find them any better to use.

simonaway427 01-01-12 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 13663120)
They throw yellow shreds instead. I didn't find them any better to use.

Is your trainer lined with barbed wire?

Buy one - its worth it. I personally use the Continental one (orange). I used an old Gatorskin at first, and after about 30 mins of riding, there was black dust all over the place and the tire was very, very hot. I switched to the trainer tire and after over 1000kms of hard interval riding, its still fine with no sign of wear.

I have it mounted on a dedicated rim and cassette which makes switching between the trainer and the road very easy.

SmokedDeathDog 01-01-12 01:50 PM

not to mention that the trainer tires are much quieter on the CycleOps trainers.

StanSeven 01-01-12 02:55 PM

A few trainer sessions also makes the tires very smooth and slick. Not good on starting out on wet roads. But a couple hundred years on dry road roughens up the surface again.

MrTuner1970 01-01-12 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by canam73 (Post 13663078)
I typically put an old tire that I have retired from road use on to a cheap rear wheel that I bought for the purpose and run that. You won't get a flat or break a spoke on the trainer.

This.

rbart4506 01-01-12 03:39 PM

Old tire user here...Michelin Krylions...Never any black dust....

HokuLoa 01-01-12 08:43 PM

Trainer and rollers are where my retired tires go to die...

AEO 01-01-12 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 13663471)
A few trainer sessions also makes the tires very smooth and slick. Not good on starting out on wet roads. But a couple hundred years on dry road roughens up the surface again.

and squared off.

retired tire is the answer.

billydonn 01-01-12 10:34 PM

My coach says road tires can be hard on the trainer roller... tends to wear a groove in it or gouge it up. Cannot verify this by experience however.

djb 01-02-12 12:33 AM

i use a retired slick and there is neither noticeable dust nor noise with the trainer/tire combo I use (tire is a spec all condition 28, and yes it gets all shiny)
trainer tires may be quieter but I listen to movies using headphones and its fine, even without headphones noise is ok for listening.

plx 01-02-12 12:04 PM

Which trainer tire is best? vittoria zaffiro or tacx?
i have vittoria zaffiro for road and it's very good so i'am inclined to buy it for trainer

Christobevii3 01-02-12 01:38 PM

I use a continental training tire and highly recommend it. I have around 700 miles or so on mine with a kirk kinetic. Seems grippier and doesn't slip like a regular tire will in sprints.

rbart4506 01-02-12 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by billydonn (Post 13665168)
My coach says road tires can be hard on the trainer roller... tends to wear a groove in it or gouge it up. Cannot verify this by experience however.

I'm using a KK Road Machine, had it since Jan2008 and it's still going strong...no noticeable groove...I live in Canada so it gets lots of use in the winter..

HokuLoa 01-02-12 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by billydonn (Post 13665168)
My coach says road tires can be hard on the trainer roller... tends to wear a groove in it or gouge it up. Cannot verify this by experience however.

I imagine this is theoretically possible with PVC rollers but certainly not with metal rollers or trainers.

eriku16 01-02-12 04:53 PM

I've been using a Tacx on the KK Road Machine. After 3800 miles, it still looks new. Very minimal wear on the center section.

TrekDen 01-02-12 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 13663120)
They throw yellow shreds instead. I didn't find them any better to use.

This statement is total BS... A trainer specific tire is made of a compound to prevent this from happening. Going on my third winter on mine, and it shows no sign of shredding period...

gregf83 01-02-12 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by billydonn (Post 13665168)
My coach says road tires can be hard on the trainer roller... tends to wear a groove in it or gouge it up. Cannot verify this by experience however.

I do notice a sheen on my tires from a little aluminum wearing off the roller. I doubt I'll see a noticeable groove in my lifetime though :) Even if there was a groove it wouldn't affect the trainer functioning.

rekmeyata 01-02-12 05:57 PM

I didn't have time to read everyone's posts here so sorry if this stuff is repeated stuff.

I change tires...to old tires that are no longer good to use on the street! Old tires are perfectly fine to use on a trainer as long as you clean the tread and pick out anything embedded in the tire.

A trainer adjusted properly will not have bits of shredded rubber dust laying about. In that same vein, nor would a properly adjusted trainer that is a higher quality unit deposit it's aluminum or steel on the roller onto the tire giving it a sheen.

My Cycleops Fluid 2 is a steel drum not aluminum. I've used it now for 8 years and there's no groves on the drum, and no signs of wear like grooves, there's also no rubber fragments on the drum either.

HokuLoa 01-03-12 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 13667989)
I do notice a sheen on my tires from a little aluminum wearing off the roller. I doubt I'll see a noticeable groove in my lifetime though :) Even if there was a groove it wouldn't affect the trainer functioning.

you sure the sheen isn't just the tire glazing with the friction/heat?

gregf83 01-03-12 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by HokuLoa (Post 13669626)
you sure the sheen isn't just the tire glazing with the friction/heat?

I clean it off with a damp cloth so I'm pretty sure it's just aluminum.


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