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giantcfr1 01-07-12 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by MinnMan (Post 13687794)
...I moved temporarily to Canberra ...

Please say hello to Uncle Ken for me. He lives in Oxley.

I am much much faster in winter. The summers are too humid here in Kyoto to ride hard.

jeffpoulin 01-07-12 08:37 AM

It doesn't get any easier, you just go slower...

On those rare winter days when the temp gets up to 60F and I'm in shorts and long sleeve shirt, my average speed goes right back up to my summertime average.

Essex 01-07-12 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jdon (Post 13687920)
Fort Chip? Coldest ever recorded is -51. Do I still need to go north to find this elusive -60? Like speeds and distances on BF, people like to exaggerate weather stories.

Fahrenheit readings and record lows - Resolute Bay Airport. It's cold up there.

shoemakerpom 01-07-12 09:34 AM

Definitley slower foir me! :( I think its because I am always trying not to get sick so I don't always ride where I am breathing too heavy witch for me lead to soar throat.:cry:
Summer is always better no matter how hot it gets.......:rolleyes:

jdon 01-07-12 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Essex (Post 13688142)
Fahrenheit readings and record lows - Resolute Bay Airport. It's cold up there.

Been there many, many times. It can get cold. It isn't in Alberta though.

surgeonstone 01-07-12 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by jdon (Post 13688186)
Been there many, many times. It can get cold. It isn't in Alberta though.

Give it a break, Matchka's a right on solid person and says it like it is. You're nit-picking sounds a bit foolish.

jdon 01-07-12 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 13688204)
Give it a break, Matchka's a right on solid person and says it like it is. You're nit-picking sounds a bit foolish.

Fact often sounds more foolish than fiction. I could care less what she claims and frankly, don't share your opinion. To each his own.

Rimmer 01-07-12 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 13687736)
There's some debate (especially over in the Winter Cycling forum) if it is ...
-- the tire pressure
-- cold bicycle lubrication
-- the extra layers of clothing constricting movement
-- air density
-- road conditions


It would be interesting to see a segment on this topic on Mythbusters ... is it really air density or are there other factors at work?

Try this http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 13688204)
Give it a break, Matchka's a right on solid person and says it like it is. You're nit-picking sounds a bit foolish.

Yeah, he got pretty angry at me for debunking his lies about shaving hair on legs. He shaves his legs.

surgeonstone 01-07-12 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by jdon (Post 13688247)
Fact often sounds more foolish than fiction. I could care less what she claims and frankly, don't share your opinion. To each his own.

In this particular situation, the only thing that sounds foolish is a something or someone called jdon. Cheers.

Essex 01-07-12 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by jdon (Post 13688247)
Fact often sounds more foolish than fiction. I could care less what she claims and frankly, don't share your opinion. To each his own.

I posted data which illustrates how cold it can get at various points in Canada - specifically at that latitude near the North Pole. With windchill effects temperatures can certainly dip into lower numbers at lower latitudes in Canada. Either or, the conversation is about the physics and physiology related to perceived speed/fitness in colder temps.

On a physiological note - the kids up there certainly aren't thwarted by the cold as much as I was. They were riding beater bikes all over town ....many without brakes.

surgeonstone 01-07-12 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Rimmer (Post 13688251)
Try this http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm



Yeah, he got pretty angry at me for debunking his lies about shaving hair on legs. He shaves his legs.

Is that chart accurate? For my typical weekday ride of 35 miles it calculated 400 watts average to get my average speed, seems a bit high.

dalava 01-07-12 11:09 AM

So it's close to mid 60s today, and i just finished my morning ride. My average speed is right back to my summer average. Damn cold air.

surgeonstone 01-07-12 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by dalava (Post 13688396)
So it's close to mid 60s today, and i just finished my morning ride. My average speed is right back to my summer average. Damn cold air.

My brother is a schooner captain and sails and races nearly year round. His life is one of water, wind and meteorology. I mentioned this winter slowdown phenomena to him and without a seconds hesitation said the exact same thing, " Damned cold air is as heavy as lead, that's the problem".

Rimmer 01-07-12 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 13688306)
Is that chart accurate? For my typical weekday ride of 35 miles it calculated 400 watts average to get my average speed, seems a bit high.

I don't have a power meter to confirm. Difference in temperature for summer and winter 100F to 40F only shows 0.5mph for me which looks consistent with what people are saying. I don't wear heavy clothes in the winter.

portland376 01-07-12 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Doohickie (Post 13684448)
It's the drag of extra clothing layers.

I'd debate it's the drag of the extra fat I've packed onto my love handles over the holidays flapping in the wind. But I make myself feel better and say it's the extra clothing. I could eat and drink less over the holidays i suppose....but then it wouldn't really be the holiday season now would it?

a1penguin 01-07-12 06:40 PM

I'm definitely slower in colder weather. We had a 60º day and my commute was a lot faster. Extra weight from clothing, flapping wind jacket and having to warm up cold air are three reasons that I figure contribute to slower speeds.

jdon 01-07-12 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 13688281)
In this particular situation, the only thing that sounds foolish is a something or someone called jdon. Cheers.

Yeah, name calling always proves you are a champ. :rolleyes:

mark1974 01-07-12 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by baj32161 (Post 13684714)
If I was any slower than I am in the summer, I would fall over

i dont get it

surgeonstone 01-07-12 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by jdon (Post 13690288)
Yeah, name calling always proves you are a champ. :rolleyes:

You do realize that saying one is doing something foolish is not name calling, it is rather an observation of an action. There is a difference.

jeffpoulin 01-08-12 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by mark1974 (Post 13690411)
i dont get it

He's saying he can't do track stands.

MinnMan 01-08-12 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by giantcfr1 (Post 13687941)
Please say hello to Uncle Ken for me. He lives in Oxley.

I went by Oxley this afternoon, on my way to the hill on Erindale Drive. Alas, I didn't see your Uncle Ken.

Walter 01-08-12 08:05 AM

There's a saying about arguing on the internet. Some of you are going out of your way to validate it.

Cease, desist, stay on topic and stop taking things personally.


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