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I am sitting here in Northeast Ohio with about an inch of snow on the ground and I am wishing I was outside riding my Giant. I find it interesting to look into the latest cycling equipment in the winter as I get ready for the next season. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone wanted to talk about what frames that are readily available today, have been used in the Pro Peloton in the last 5 years or so. I know that the Trek 5000 is supposedly what LA used to win the TDF several years ago and that some of the current Cannondales have also supposedly been used. Does anyone know of any others and the specifics surrounding them? I think this can be a great resource for someone looking for a new bike.
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Specialized's frames are a feature with the Domina Vacanze team. If the E5 is good enough for Cippo, then I guess I don't need the Look! Roubaix Pro seems like a great choice too - and affordable when compared to alternative carbon frames in the peleton.
http://www.specialized.com/SBCWhatsN...&refp=TeamRoad |
Cervelo 2.5 is used by CSC. Very nice looking frame but for now ($$$) steel is real. :D
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Orbea Orca was used by Iban Mayo and all, or atleast part of, Euskaltel-Euskadi. VERY nice frame. Also, team Jelly Belly uses it in the US
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The Cervelo frame supposedly is very aerodynamic nut not the stiffest. Colnago c-50 or Scott CR 1 is propably top of the line. By the way Gerolsteiner is going to ride Specialized for the next season.
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? I don't get the question. Almost all of the bikes in the Pro teams are available to anyone. Sure they get some custom stuff made at times but the basic top line race bikes they use are available to anyone who wants to buy one.
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Look frames 481SL by kelme i think, and the 486
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The UCI mandates that equipment used by professionals must be "marketable" to the general public as well. You can buy nearly all professional equipment, except for some one-off custom pieces or prototypes that later go into production......for a price. :D
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If your going to buy anything that is used by a pro team, you must be pretty f*ckin rich. Alot of there stuff is overpriced because they ride it. (by they i mean the proteam.)
does anyone know what the paint scheme is for the jelly belly team? any pics would be nice. I thought that it would have jelly belly all over it, i may be wrong. |
Originally Posted by hi565
If your going to buy anything that is used by a pro team, you must be pretty f*ckin rich. Alot of there stuff is overpriced because they ride it. (by they i mean the proteam.)
does anyone know what the paint scheme is for the jelly belly team? any pics would be nice. I thought that it would have jelly belly all over it, i may be wrong. This is the Jelly Belly colour scheme.... http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1914 |
climbo
I don't mean to be rude - but I asked if anyone knows of any "readily available" frames that one could purchase from our local bike shop such as the above mentioned Cannondale and Trek. Also, I was wondering if these frames were really the same as the ones the pros use or used to use. I know I can purchase anything for a “price”. |
Originally Posted by SJK
I don't mean to be rude - but I asked if anyone knows of any "readily available" frames that one could purchase from our local bike shop such as the above mentioned Cannondale and Trek. Also, I was wondering if these frames were really the same as the ones the pros use or used to use. I know I can purchase anything for a “price”.
Yes. They are the same. A Cannondale or Trek dealer can quote you on the pro frames. |
Originally Posted by hi565
If your going to buy anything that is used by a pro team, you must be pretty f*ckin rich. Alot of there stuff is overpriced because they ride it. (by they i mean the proteam.)
does anyone know what the paint scheme is for the jelly belly team? any pics would be nice. I thought that it would have jelly belly all over it, i may be wrong. peace- jim |
Originally Posted by SJK
climbo
I don't mean to be rude - but I asked if anyone knows of any "readily available" frames that one could purchase from our local bike shop such as the above mentioned Cannondale and Trek. Also, I was wondering if these frames were really the same as the ones the pros use or used to use. I know I can purchase anything for a “price”. |
Exactly, that's the whole deal - Pro Cycling (or any sport of that matter), is largely about selling product, so therefore it would make sense for the pros to ride bikes that are available to the general public, for all those people that are wannabes. :)
I'm still a bit confused as to how you could possibly not know this - there are articles on this type of thing in every website, and every magazine ever published. Now, as for this information being 'great resource for someone looking for a new bike.', I think that's totally incorrect. 99% of us are not pro racers, 90% of us will never race, so why have a pro race bike? Further evidence of this is slowly emerging, with companies releasing bikes like the Specialized Roubaix and Klein Rêve et al. The irony of this, is this is something custom frame companies have been doing for some time now ( ie: Longer stays, slacker angles, higher bar position, slower handling etc. for those that need it ). Naturally, that won't stop companies like Specialized using words like 'revolutionary', just as it didn't stop Giant when it 'stumbled' upon the sloping top tube. |
Originally Posted by Thylacine
Exactly, that's the whole deal - Pro Cycling (or any sport of that matter), is largely about selling product, so therefore it would make sense for the pros to ride bikes that are available to the general public, for all those people that are wannabes. :)
I'm still a bit confused as to how you could possibly not know this - there are articles on this type of thing in every website, and every magazine ever published. Now, as for this information being 'great resource for someone looking for a new bike.', I think that's totally incorrect. 99% of us are not pro racers, 90% of us will never race, so why have a pro race bike? Further evidence of this is slowly emerging, with companies releasing bikes like the Specialized Roubaix and Klein Rêve et al. The irony of this, is this is something custom frame companies have been doing for some time now ( ie: Longer stays, slacker angles, higher bar position, slower handling etc. for those that need it ). Naturally, that won't stop companies like Specialized using words like 'revolutionary', just as it didn't stop Giant when it 'stumbled' upon the sloping top tube. Good post. |
Originally Posted by Jim Bonnet
Pretty harsh dude.. The guy asked a simple question. I get so gawd garn sick and tired of people says, XYZ bike is overpriced, etc. Who are you to care what people spend their money on? Some people are fortunate enough to have fat jobs and afford this stuff. enough said.
peace- jim Jees i was KIDDING, I am always at fault. |
This thread is getting pretty fired up over nothing. ehh typicl threaders (i amde that word up)
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lance rode my trek OCLV 110 for years, same geometry/build/etc. one can purchase the exact if one wanted for about the price of any top-of-the-line bike.
as to the whole debate, if you want a pro-line bike, get a pro-line bike. who cares if some people think it's silly or a waste of money? who cares if you get passed by someone on a rusty schwinn? do whatever makes you happy. for me, my 5900 made me quite happy. every time i throw my leg over it, it makes me happy. every ride i do, it makes me happy. if people are willing to mock you for doing what makes you happy, think about how sad that makes them. |
Originally Posted by hi565
Jees i was KIDDING, I am always at fault.
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Time is used by Quick-Step and by Bouyghes (formerly La Boulangère).
3 World Point Champion in a row and 2004 Olympic Gold Medal (Bettini- Quick Step), 2004 Time Trial World Champion (Rogers - Quick-Step). |
Lets all get totally pissed off - yeah Troll, troll, troll!
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Team Colavita and Thad Dulin (the man) ride the http://www.feltracing.com/05_frames/2005_sc1_frame.html and the http://www.feltracing.com/05_frames/2005_f1c_frame.html
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Seaco rides the Cannondale Caad8 next to the Six13
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I was thinking of buying a new vehicle for hauling groceries and such...could someone e-mail me a list of the cars being driven by the Pros at LeMans this year?
The guys who race bikes at the Tour de France do NOT get to ride the bikes they want to ride - they have to ride the bike their sponsor gives them. A rider with "clout", such as Lance, might convince a sponsor to buy a bike he actually likes, and then paint it to look like a Trek (something Lance was doing for time trials), but usually they are just stuck with the sponsor's stuff. Most of us will not be entering the TDF this year. Most of us will be riding for relaxation, or recreation. Some will be doing light touring or loaded touring. Some commuting to work or the grocery store. Some will actually get a license and race, but the typical USA race is a short crit, with lots of turns, not a 2000 mile race that includes a week in the mountains, and two or three time trials. So, oddly enough, the bikes the "Pros" use at the TDF might be about the WORST bike for Joe in Akron. It is interesting to see what the Sponsors are foisting off on the Pro riders in this year's effort to hype up sales. Fun to think about having a bike of that sort. But, when it is time to actually get out your wallet, buy a bike for yourself and don't be suckered by the marketing boys at the bike companies. |
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