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Old 01-12-12, 01:06 PM
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Continental GP4000 vs GP4000s

I'm considering a new set of tires for the season and I'm looking at the GP4000 and GP4000s. Has anyone tried both and can give an opinion on why one was chosen over the other or which performed/rode better?
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I don't think there's a difference anymore. AFAIK they're all GP4000s if you're looking at the regular all-black tires.
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i use the 4000s 23c

They are very tough grippy tyres. I wore down my rear tyre after a year (around 5,800 miles)
Had around 4 flats.

Always rode them at 120 psi

The front is still strong
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Yes, i'm only looking at the black tires with the black chili compound, no fancy shmansy colors here! I ride a matte black Felt Z85 named Darth Vader, black on black = win.
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GP4000s -Higher TPI count, slightly better grip, Black Chili compound,just a hair lighter, no color options
GP4000- lower TPI, no Black Chili compound, slightly heavier, vast color options, and a hair less grip,easier to find in 25mm

I have had both many times and I do prefer GP4000s just slightly and stock up on them when I can find 25mm for the rear(I ride 23mm in the front). There's not a huge price difference between the two and prices vary greatly, so if you can, get the GP4000s.

It seems also, from what I've have read just now that in the most recent models, the ONLY difference now is that GP4000s is all black.
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Originally Posted by vandarye View Post
black on black = win.
reported.
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Make sure you stock up on extra tubes and patch kits if you're buying conti tires.
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"s" = silver lettering.




Should I close the thread now?
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Originally Posted by SebastionMerckx View Post
GP4000s -Higher TPI count, slightly better grip, Black Chili compound,just a hair lighter, no color options
GP4000- lower TPI, no Black Chili compound, slightly heavier, vast color options, and a hair less grip,easier to find in 25mm

I have had both many times and I do prefer GP4000s just slightly and stock up on them when I can find 25mm for the rear(I ride 23mm in the front). There's not a huge price difference between the two and prices vary greatly, so if you can, get the GP4000s.

It seems also, from what I've have read just now that in the most recent models, the ONLY difference now is that GP4000s is all black.
I thought the black GP4000 was black chili also...but any tread with color isn't.
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I looked at both last season and couldn't determine a major difference. Ended up with the GP4000s, and I must say they are solid. Highly recommended.
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I thought the black GP4000 was black chili also...but any tread with color isn't.
The others are yellow chili, blue chili and red chili.
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Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
I thought the black GP4000 was black chili also...but any tread with color isn't.
That's what I know too.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
The others are yellow chili, blue chili and red chili.
Is wear and performance the same on the black chili vs. the other colors?
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Conti website (and others) say the black GP4000 is the same as GP4000s (except graphics as Carleton pointed out).

Don't bother to get the colored GP4000 unless you are stupid like me and think it would be cool to have colored tires. The thing is I had these blue GP4000 sitting around a year until I mounted them, but now they're on a different bike than originally intended and the colors don't match. Also, the color down the middle of the tread seemed to rub away after one or two rides anyhow (at least on the ones I have).
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I haven't noticed any difference. I'm sure it's there, I just can't feel it. I got a pair of drab olive colored GP4000 with no S at LBS a while ago. They gave me a great price because it was an ugly color no one would buy. When I wore the rear tire out, I got the S ones (ahem, from Ribble for better than half what LBS charges, even after shipping). They feel about the same when I ride them.
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Originally Posted by vandarye View Post
Is wear and performance the same on the black chili vs. the other colors?
Conti's marketing department seems to want us to think not. Plus, "black chili" sounds cool.
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All I know is that I have had long wear and good luck with 4000-S and will purchase more when I need them.
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Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
Make sure you stock up on extra tubes and patch kits if you're buying conti tires.
Why?? I ran them on three different road bikes last year for 8000 miles. I had at most 4 flats the whole year. Pretty good if you ask me.
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I've been running both of them on my road bikes. I really can't say I notice a difference.I do use the black only tires and in both 23c and 25c over the past year and a half or so. They seem to last pretty long for me and I really don't have flat problems with them despite riding almost exclusively on rough chip seal roads.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
Why?? I ran them on three different road bikes last year for 8000 miles. I had at most 4 flats the whole year. Pretty good if you ask me.
I thought so too, until I stopped buying conti tires and switched to vredesteins about 3 years ago.

Same routes, same rides, no flats on vreds... the same routes and rides that I flatted several times during the same miles on conti 4000s.

Just saying. Conti tires are not only overpriced, they're overrated by people who seem to have a cult-like attraction to them.


PS: the vreds corner so much better than the conti 4000s, it's kind of ridiculous.


In my experience, conti 4000s are flat magnets, and they don't handle particularly well, which wouldn't be an issue if they cost $25, which is about all they're worth.
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Originally Posted by vandarye View Post
Yes, i'm only looking at the black tires with the black chili compound, no fancy shmansy colors here! I ride a matte black Felt Z85 named Darth Vader, black on black = win.
This was the actual victory in the post. Just so you know.
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Why is this still being discussed?

"S" just denotes the all-black tire with silver lettering.

If there were any substantial difference, it would clearly be noted in any advertising or production description materials.
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
Why is this still being discussed?

"S" just denotes the all-black tire with silver lettering.

If there were any substantial difference, it would clearly be noted in any advertising or production description materials.
S is 10g lighter (in 23c)

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S is 10g lighter (in 23c)
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What's the lowest price you guys have seen these? the 'bay always have sellers having them for $100 a pair.
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