Going Full Carbon on a budget of $2.5K
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Wrong. $2100 can get you a full Ultegra, 16.5 pound BMC SL01 from Competitive Cyclist or my local LBS. If you are getting 105 for $2500 you're overpaying or don't know how to negotiate.
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I don't know. For everyone who hates BD for using dead names, there is someone who waxes nostalgic about the Motobecane they had when they were a kid and would like to have a new one. BD Mike's no idiot. He seems to understand the sales aspect of cycling more than anything else. BD probably sells more bikes than any other company using the same business model. Personally, I think having the old names is fine, but they could do a lot better with graphics (that includes the bikes and the website).
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I don't think I've EVER seen a bad review of a Moto Ti bike (from someone who has owned one). Plenty of BD haters, but the Ti seems to be an very good bike at a very good price point.
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Take a look at the Orbea website on the Carbon bikes of past years they are trying to get rid of. I got a 2010 Orbea Onyx for 2,400 including tax. It has full Ultegra components and I love it.
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couple more weeks left for the cervelo deal. just picked this up for $1600+tax. LBS took care of finding a "friend".
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Two options come to mind quickly.
1) Giant TCR Composite, superb all-carbon framed bike. You can probably find a 2011 for cheap and afford a nicer wheelset and but all the necessary accessories.
2) Motobecane Ti with Rival from bikes direct, full Rival and a Ritchey cockpit/seatpost. Slap on a nicer wheelset and still plenty left over for goodies.
1) Giant TCR Composite, superb all-carbon framed bike. You can probably find a 2011 for cheap and afford a nicer wheelset and but all the necessary accessories.
2) Motobecane Ti with Rival from bikes direct, full Rival and a Ritchey cockpit/seatpost. Slap on a nicer wheelset and still plenty left over for goodies.
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Hey Guys,
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
Thanks guys for all of the help.
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
Thanks guys for all of the help.
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Hey Guys,
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
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Hey Guys,
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
Thanks guys for all of the help.
Thank you so much for the advice. Today, I test rode a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp which is on sale right now for $2100. Is this a rip off?
Tomorrow, I am going to test ride two trek bikes: a 2011 madone 5.1 and a 2012 madone 4.5. Anything I should keep in mind?
Thanks guys for all of the help.
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Peter - It sounds like this is your first try getting a bike. The price point you've picked is really the sweet spot - good frames and good components.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
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I'm trying to overhaul a BMC SL02 w/ SRAM components and a custom wheelset for under $2200 (that's assuming I get to sell everything on my sig).
SL02 was $1500 to begin with.
SL02 was $1500 to begin with.
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Peter - It sounds like this is your first try getting a bike. The price point you've picked is really the sweet spot - good frames and good components.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
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Peter - It sounds like this is your first try getting a bike. The price point you've picked is really the sweet spot - good frames and good components.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
Getting good information from the internet takes more effort than walking into your LBS and listening to some LBS sales pitch, but if you want quality input, the internet is collectively far far far more informed than your average LBS employee.
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Peter - It sounds like this is your first try getting a bike. The price point you've picked is really the sweet spot - good frames and good components.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
The folks here recommending getting a bike online are doing so with the best of intentions. If you know what you're doing, there are some awesome deals out there. However (comma, pause for effect) if you don't know what you're doing, you can end up wasting a bunch of money and getting turned off to cycling.
If this is indeed your first time, get your bike at a local bike shop (LBS). Ask around among local cyclists which shops are comfortable with first timers (not all are) and which have good customer service. Those are the shops on which to focus your search. Decide what kind of riding you want to do - are you thinking about racing, or just long rides with friends? Are you fairly fit and limber, or otherwise? There are two types of road bikes, one oriented more toward racing and the other more toward "endurance" riding. Note that they're not exclusively made for one activity or the other - racers often take their race bikes on long rides, and endurance bikes are fast and often raced when their geometry and construction favor the course. The Specialized Roubaix you rode - an excellent bike - is an endurance bike that has been raced at the highest levels. Most brands have a version of each type; for Specialized, their race bike is the Tarmac.
When you buy your bike at an LBS, you get stuff that you don't get when you buy online. The shop will ensure you get the right size bike, set it up correctly, fit you to the bike, and usually have at least one tune up (often more) as part of the purchase price. An experienced cyclist knows how to do this stuff, but if it's your first time, this is worth more than the potential savings from buying a bike online.
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Thanks guys for all of the advice thus far. I will be going with an LBS on this one since I don't know my fit very well and I don't know how to assemble bikes just yet. Perhaps a future purchase can be done on the internet but not this one. Does anyone have opinions on the Madone 4's and 5's? It doesn't seem like anyone cares for Trek but I'd like to know why. Thanks guys.
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I built my most recent full carbon/Ultregra bike for around $1500.
My girlfriend rides a Giant, all carbon, 105; she paid $1500.
You don't need $2500 to get into a carbon bike.
My girlfriend rides a Giant, all carbon, 105; she paid $1500.
You don't need $2500 to get into a carbon bike.
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That is an amazing deal. Carbon Ultegra for $1500! Did you build this up yourself? How did you get that price for you and your girlfriend?
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I have a 2011 Trek Madone 4.5 that has been a great bike and trouble free. I'm hoping to upgrade to a 2012 Madone 5.2 in the next couple months. I think you'd be very pleased with a Trek Madone. Having said that, shop around try as many different bikes as you have time and patience for and buy what's best for YOU.
While you're looking pay attention to the bike dealers, you'll want a good dealer that you get along with and are confident that they are there to help you.
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Thanks Robert. This is great advice. I just got back from 3 hours of riding. I was switching off between my current Trek 2120, a madone 4.5 and a madone 5.1. I had a lot of fun and will continue searching.
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So right now, I have my eye on two different bikes.
A Cervelo RS, Rival Gruppo and Shimano wheels for $1600.
Or a Scott Addict R3 (new but a few years old), Ultegra Gruppo (2009) and Ksyrium Elite Wheels for $1800.
Of these two, which is a better deal?
A Cervelo RS, Rival Gruppo and Shimano wheels for $1600.
Or a Scott Addict R3 (new but a few years old), Ultegra Gruppo (2009) and Ksyrium Elite Wheels for $1800.
Of these two, which is a better deal?