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Going Full Carbon on a budget of $2.5K

Old 01-13-12, 01:40 AM
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Going Full Carbon on a budget of $2.5K

Hi Everyone,

I'm sure you guys get this question a lot but I couldn't find this thread anywhere.

I am looking to upgrade and I have around 2.5k. I'd like to spend closer to around 2k so I have extra money for computers, lights, pedals, etc. I'm looking for a bike that is a good deal, reliable (doesn't need much maintenance), will help me climb hills faster, and will help me ride a double century this upcoming summer.

I have been shopping for a while now and so far, I like the Trek Madone 5.1, Scattante CFR, Wilier Izoard XP, and the Specialized Tarmac Comp Rival.

Which of these bikes do you like the best, why, and which other bikes would you recommend for my price range? Thanks for all of the help!
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2-2.5 basically gets you a CF frame with 105 or Rival components, entry level wheels and a weight around 18lbs. Beyond that, the differences fit and riding position will depend on your body proportions, where you ride and what kind of riding you do.
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For 2K you can get a Ti bike with 105, decent wheels, and a weight of 18.5 or so. If you need a bike that is reliable, comfortable on long rides, and will last you a lifetime, you might look at Ti instead. Carbon can be way lighter (<<15 lbs) and perform better but if you're not racing and are OK with a bike around 18lbs I feel you should strongly consider a Ti frame.
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if you're looking for fancy exotic carbon fiber bike kinda deal the Willier is a no-brainer
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https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...ODUCT.ID=10335
https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...ODUCT.ID=10254

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Wilier and BMC

IMO the next option is china mainland frames, but all depends of the bike you are looking for too. If you like a specialized allez type of bike with a 6 feet front tube willier and bmc wont cut it, totally different type of bike.
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Performance has some '10 Scattante CFR Race for around $1800. That is with Ultregra shifters and derailluers with a FSA BB30 FSA SLK crankset.
I have around 3,600 miles on mine now.
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Might want to try these:

https://www.rossettibike.com/bikes/road/slx.html

https://www.rossettibike.com/specials/vertigo.html
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Shop for 2011 bikes on sale. Should be good discounts out there. Just don't compromise size / fit because it is on sale. I picked up a 2011 Roubaix Expert for $2350.00 on sale. Almost all bikes in your price range will be good bikes but you need to figure out what you like and what fit you like. Ride lots of bikes and give your money to a shop you like and want to have a relationship with.
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How about a Cervelo?

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Ultegra-for-2k
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...rvelo-S2-today!

Should be plenty of dealers in your area participating in the "Share the ride" deal.
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https://www.novemberbicycles.com Right in your budget and some interesting reading as well.


You also might try experimenting with configurations on www.pedalforce.com to see what you can get within your budget.

You will certainly be able to do better than 105 or Rival w/generic wheels.
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Those deals have been around quite some time... and while good, I have to wonder if you noticed that they are down to three sizes in the Road Racer-- 48, 51 and 57-- and only the 60 in the Street Racer.

So, no, I disagree. The thread does not end.
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I have never seen these bikes on the road before. Can anyone tell me more about these bikes?
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From my little research, Titanium bikes seems to be more expensive than my budget. Can you help me find a website that can help me with this?
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Titanium bikes are expensive, with perhaps a sole exception of a Motobecane from BikesDirect.com

And as you look around BD bear in mind that they hit those awesome price points in a few ways... one of which is using mixed component sets, and another is cheap seatpost, stem, and bars.
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Cervelo RS with the $1,000 discount. https://www.cervelo.com/en_us/bikes/share-the-ride/

Should come out to around $1,600, which seems like a good price for a SRAM Rival-equipped bike. Maybe try to find an '11 Cervelo to make it even more affordable.
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Originally Posted by peterkhoanguyen
From my little research, Titanium bikes seems to be more expensive than my budget. Can you help me find a website that can help me with this?
Titanium is well within your budget.
www.bikesdirect.com
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Originally Posted by peterkhoanguyen
I have never seen these bikes on the road before. Can anyone tell me more about these bikes?
I will tomorrow. My Rossetti Vertigo will be arriving this morning. They are based out of Miami and design their own frames. Very friendly people. Kind of a mom & pop company right now. Their website is a little rough on the grammar right now because they are from South America and are not native English speakers, but I am in the process of helping them clean it up.

Here's their Facebook page. Lots of good pictures in there: https://www.facebook.com/RossettiBikes

Another bike to consider is the BMC Roadracer. Love that bike. Ended up getting the Rossetti because my negotiations with the local BMC dealer came up short. You can probably get the BMC for about $2000.
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I would go with the Wilier Izoard XP only because that's what I have ...
CC has it for about $1800 with sram rival. Mine came with force and K10 wheels and rides like a dream.
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Originally Posted by ColinL
Titanium bikes are expensive, with perhaps a sole exception of a Motobecane from BikesDirect.com

And as you look around BD bear in mind that they hit those awesome price points in a few ways... one of which is using mixed component sets, and another is cheap seatpost, stem, and bars.
Mostly BD hits their price points by just cutting out the LBS, marketing, team sponsorships, etc. And rather than pushing the cutting edge with expensive R&D, they used tried and true (but still very modern) designs.
I see a lot more expensive bikes at the LBS with lower quality parts (including the frame) than equivalently priced BD bikes. My titanium Motobecane 29er doesn't have any mixed sets or cheap parts on it.

There are many other "internet" bike companies that use a similar strategy...BD is just the most conspicuous, mostly because of their gaudy website, and shameless recycling of long-dead brand names, and has nothing to do with the bikes themselves. This has been covered a million times, BTW, here and elsewhere. Search tools are your friends.

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If you stretch the budget a bit: https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ltegra_di2.htm
Apparently Di2 is the sh*t (not that I'd know )
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
Mostly BD hits their price points by just cutting out the LBS, marketing, team sponsorships, etc. And rather than pushing the cutting edge with expensive R&D, they used tried and true (but still very modern) designs.
I see a lot more expensive bikes at the LBS with lower quality parts (including the frame) than equivalently priced BD bikes. My titanium Motobecane 29er doesn't have any mixed sets or cheap parts on it.

There are many other "internet" bike companies that use a similar strategy...BD is just the most conspicuous, mostly because of their gaudy website, and shameless recycling of long-dead brand names, and has nothing to do with the bikes themselves. This has been covered a million times, BTW, here and elsewhere. Search tools are your friends.
I wonder if BD would palatable to the masses if they simply got rid of the Motobecane, Winsdor and Gravity names and just sold unbadged bikes. Kind of reminds me of when I was growing up and everyone wore Levi's 501 jeans. My parents bought me Toughskins. Looked about the same, fit the same, did the same job...but f, I hated wearing them. Kids can be mean.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
This has been covered a million times, BTW, here and elsewhere. Search tools are your friends.
Other than being an internet badass why tell me this? I know it. The OP probably does not know about BD and hopefully has benefitted from the information in your post and mine.

I am not prejudiced against BD and I would consider buying one. My brother-in-law's BD aluminum HT 29er has a good fork, good brakes, SLX rear derailleur and terrible everything else. I was shocked at what he paid until I looked at it closely and then I rode it. It's a good bike for the money. And they make a lot of better-equipped bikes that are also good values.
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
I wonder if BD would palatable to the masses if they simply got rid of the Motobecane, Winsdor and Gravity names and just sold unbadged bikes. Kind of reminds me of when I was growing up and everyone wore Levi's 501 jeans. My parents bought me Toughskins. Looked about the same, fit the same, did the same job...but f, I hated wearing them. Kids can be mean.
I don't know. For everyone who hates BD for using dead names, there is someone who waxes nostalgic about the Motobecane they had when they were a kid and would like to have a new one. BD Mike's no idiot. He seems to understand the sales aspect of cycling more than anything else. BD probably sells more bikes than any other company using the same business model. Personally, I think having the old names is fine, but they could do a lot better with graphics (that includes the bikes and the website).
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Originally Posted by ColinL
Other than being an internet badass why tell me this? I know it. The OP probably does not know about BD and hopefully has benefitted from the information in your post and mine.
You answered your own question, don't you think. So why the attitude?
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