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Sram or Shimano Cassette?

Old 02-02-12, 08:23 AM
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Sram or Shimano Cassette?

I've been running a shimano cassette on my rival bike because sram doesn't have a 12-23. But I am setting up a set of climbing wheels and will be buying a wider range cassette for it. Is there any consensus that one companies ramps shift better than the others?

My only experience with a sram cassette was on Open Glide design and it was not good so I would only be considering the PG type.
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Old 02-02-12, 08:25 AM
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I have used both and I can say they with enough derailleur fiddling anything will shift well. Dont worry and ride it how you like it.
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Old 02-02-12, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by canam73
Is there any consensus that one companies ramps shift better than the others?
No. Get the one that has the gear range that you want.
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Old 02-02-12, 08:31 AM
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I haven't noticed any difference between my swapping between sram and shimano cassettes.
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Red cassettes are great. 1070 cassettes, not so much. I have sent two back because they had twisted cogs out of the box. I have never had an issue with a Shimano cassette.

That said, Sram offers an 11-28 and I don't believe that Shimano does, and that is a pretty good climbing combination.
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Old 02-02-12, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Red cassettes are great. 1070 cassettes, not so much. I have sent two back because they had twisted cogs out of the box. I have never had an issue with a Shimano cassette.

That said, Sram offers an 11-28 and I don't believe that Shimano does, and that is a pretty good climbing combination.
I thought I saw shimano 11-28s on ebay, but I could be wrong. 12-27 would be ok.

My bad cassette was an OG-1070. I fiddled with everything but no matter what it would stick on shifts in the middle of the cassette either going up or down, there was no happy medium. Visually it looked fine and the individual cogs would lay flat. I even tried replacing the spacers with no luck. And when I had it set as good as it would get I could swap in a shimano or IRD cassette and it would shift perfectly.

So I did the only thing left to do. I put it on my wife's bike. Just kidding, she has 9 speed.
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Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I haven't noticed any difference between my swapping between sram and shimano cassettes.
I take back what I said. I just looked at the specs on my bike and it says I had shimano 11 - 32. Far out, I swear it said Sram last time I looked. (I've swapped it back and forth twice) The bike's outside and it's snowing so I can't go and check.
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I've used both Shimano and SRAM, and there's no real difference. Just get it adjusted properly, maintain it, and it'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I take back what I said. I just looked at the specs on my bike and it says I had shimano 11 - 32. Far out, I swear it said Sram last time I looked. (I've swapped it back and forth twice) The bike's outside and it's snowing so I can't go and check.
Wait... you have Shimano 11-32 Cassette on your road bike? So I'm assuming your Rear Derailleur is for an MTB, right?
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or sram apex/rival
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Red cassettes are great. 1070 cassettes, not so much. I have sent two back because they had twisted cogs out of the box. I have never had an issue with a Shimano cassette.

That said, Sram offers an 11-28 and I don't believe that Shimano does, and that is a pretty good climbing combination.
Shimano makes a 7900, 6700, & 5700 cassette in an 11-28.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
That said, Sram offers an 11-28 and I don't believe that Shimano does, and that is a pretty good climbing combination.
Shimano now does as part of the SLX line - a HG80 11-28. Much better than SRAM's 950 11-28.
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Old 02-02-12, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by qqy
Shimano now does as part of the SLX line - a HG80 11-28. Much better than SRAM's 950 11-28.
We be talking ten speed.
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Old 02-02-12, 09:15 PM
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I would use Ultegra or SRAM PG-1070 without concern. I have PG-1070 12-27 on one bike and 11-32 on another. I'm actually thinking about going to the Ultegra 12-23 very soon..
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Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I haven't noticed any difference between my swapping between sram and shimano cassettes.
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Don't mean to derail the thread at all but i need to get a new chain soon and was wondering if theirs any difference between Shimano and SRAM chains, can even add KMC into the mix. Current chain is a SRAM 1031, drivetrain and cassette are SRAM as well. Any recommendations, this is for a 10 speed. Thanks.
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I use SRAM PG-1070 11-26 and 11-28 as well as 6700 12-25. They all shift well and are completely interchangeable.

Originally Posted by deyendznyr
Shimano makes a 7900, 6700, & 5700 cassette in an 11-28.
one key difference is that SRAM uses a 19-22-25-28 progression compared to Shimano's 19-21-24-28. I prefer the spacing SRAM selected.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Red cassettes are great. 1070 cassettes, not so much. I have sent two back because they had twisted cogs out of the box. I have never had an issue with a Shimano cassette.

That said, Sram offers an 11-28 and I don't believe that Shimano does, and that is a pretty good climbing combination.
The 12-32 combination is also interesting, providing reasonable spacing plus a bail-out gear

12 13 14 15 16 17 19 21 24 32

instead of an evenly spaced

12 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 28 32

with no 14 or 16 cog.

With hills where you'll be using gears that low going up you'll be tucking on the way down and don't need an 11 or 12.
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Originally Posted by wrr1020
Don't mean to derail the thread at all but i need to get a new chain soon and was wondering if theirs any difference between Shimano and SRAM chains, can even add KMC into the mix. Current chain is a SRAM 1031, drivetrain and cassette are SRAM as well. Any recommendations, this is for a 10 speed. Thanks.
KMC X10 SL. Best replaceable link. Light. Strong. Relatively cheap.
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Originally Posted by ColinL
KMC X10 SL. Best replaceable link. Light. Strong. Relatively cheap.
Thanks, now i need to figure out how to replace the chain myself. Never taken a chain off let alone replace one. Need to figure out how many links to cut the new chain to.
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I have a Shimano 11-28 Ultegra cassette on one set and a 12-30 Tiagra cassette on the other.
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Originally Posted by gundom66
Wait... you have Shimano 11-32 Cassette on your road bike? So I'm assuming your Rear Derailleur is for an MTB, right?
I'm curious to see any Road Bike out there that has the SRAM MTB RDs for higher ratios. I have yet to see one.

:/ why can't SRAM bling out the Road Bike RDs. boo hoo.
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Originally Posted by Biscayne05
I'm curious to see any Road Bike out there that has the SRAM MTB RDs for higher ratios. I have yet to see one.

:/ why can't SRAM bling out the Road Bike RDs. boo hoo.
It's not a MTB RD, but I use a Rival mid-cage RD with my IRD 11-34 cassette. Works fine
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Originally Posted by ColinL
KMC X10 SL. Best replaceable link. Light. Strong. Relatively cheap.
+1 for this KMC chain
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Originally Posted by wrr1020
Thanks, now i need to figure out how to replace the chain myself. Never taken a chain off let alone replace one. Need to figure out how many links to cut the new chain to.
Here's what I would suggest.

Read up on chain swapping and sizing (Park Tool blog, Sheldon Brown, etc) and then measure it out and see what you come up with. Then count the links (make sure you aren't counting rollers) you think it needs, based on what you learned, and compare that to your existing/old chain. It should be the same or within 1 link if you're not changing the biggest gear on your cassette or outer ring.

If you change nothing else, you could just count your existing chain, but then you miss out a chance to learn what you do when you are changing things.
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