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Look 595 Origin 2009 Frameset

Old 02-09-12, 10:18 PM
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Look 595 Origin 2009 Frameset

LBS offered me the frameset for 2K. Should I pull the trigger?
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Old 02-09-12, 10:42 PM
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New? I really like this frameset, and have been wanting one for a while, but most original owners cut the seat post way too short in my size. Something to consider.
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Old 02-09-12, 10:45 PM
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I'm a big fan. My frameset is currently sitting in my closet waiting for Campagnolo EPS to hit the streets. Here it is modeling the Boras that are currently on my caad9. If it's new and in your size, $2k is a fantastic deal IMO. I'd snag it up.

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Old 02-10-12, 08:16 AM
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I personally don't like either the mast style seatpost or the clamp itself on the Look 595..both proprietary to Look. Also the 595 is a very stiff racing frame so you have to ask what the purpose of the bike will be. I basically won't buy a frameset that doesn't have a round 27.2 post...I like to cant the seat a bit to the left and also prefer a 2 bolt post. I do like Look frames though...own a 2006 Look 555 and it has been flawless.
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Old 02-10-12, 09:22 AM
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Yes you should.
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Old 02-10-12, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
I personally don't like either the mast style seatpost or the clamp itself on the Look 595..both proprietary to Look. Also the 595 is a very stiff racing frame so you have to ask what the purpose of the bike will be. I basically won't buy a frameset that doesn't have a round 27.2 post...I like to cant the seat a bit to the left and also prefer a 2 bolt post. I do like Look frames though...own a 2006 Look 555 and it has been flawless.
I personally love the e-post. It's a PITA to cut, but once it's done it's done. The 595 is a VERY comfortable bike. It's stiff where it should be, but the ride is very lively and forgiving. There is virtually no road buzz at all, but it doesn't have that dead and hollow feel that some bikes have. Have you tried the e-post Campag? I can see why it might be hard to appreciate the e-post without trying it first.
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Old 02-10-12, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
I personally love the e-post. It's a PITA to cut, but once it's done it's done. The 595 is a VERY comfortable bike. It's stiff where it should be, but the ride is very lively and forgiving. There is virtually no road buzz at all, but it doesn't have that dead and hollow feel that some bikes have. Have you tried the e-post Campag? I can see why it might be hard to appreciate the e-post without trying it first.
I want to say and perhaps I didn't do a good job of responding...the Look 595 is an outstanding race bike. I would rather buy a Tarmac SL4 with non proprietary seat post however for about the same price. I own a Look albeit one that is a bit softer than the 595. I like a bike with a bit of compliancy versus one that is uber stiff. To me the 595 Look post sucks and I have owned the Look specific post that comes in a round version that uses the same clamp as one the 595. The clamp is horrible...compared to just about any 2 bolt seat post clamp out there like Thomson, FSA...and even Specialized one bolt Pave seat clamp I find much more secure.
Does the 595 look cool? Absolutely. A cut seat mast won't slip either...a nice feature if you don't over cut the frame. But if you do, you can shim the saddle up. Downside? Can only run your saddle straight ahead...few have a symmetric pelvis and of course you are stuck with Look's crappy seat clamp.
Summary?...and only MHO...the 595 is a hell of a race bike with a crappy seat post. To me the seat post would and has kept me from buying the 595.

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Old 02-10-12, 03:10 PM
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I can certainly understand your views even though I haven't personally had any trouble with mine. Sounds like you would like the 585 since it's basically a 595 with a 27.2mm seatpost. I was looking for one to build up as a backup bike, but that was before I found my NOS caad9 frameset.
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Originally Posted by txhorns16 View Post
LBS offered me the frameset for 2K. Should I pull the trigger?
What size is it? I may just get it myself if you are not interested. It is a steal at that price if new!

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I'm a big fan. My frameset is currently sitting in my closet waiting for Campagnolo EPS to hit the streets.
Not to burst your bubble, but the 595 has an internal cable system that may not allow for the EPS to be used on it very easily. The ferrules near the head tube where the cables go in are not only proprietary, but they are also bonded to the frame. The are a one piece, the ferrule itself and the plastic sleeve that runs inside the frames and exists at the bottom. Getting that out (by breaking it off) and threading a wire through there to the bottom may be a huge task. Likely it is you'll have to end up doing some drilling (based on what I have seen of the cables online) and would certainly have to get rid of the entire thing. Having said all that, it is all speculation as I have not tried to do it. What I said about the ferrule and such it is a fact though. I have a 595 Ultra myself.
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Old 02-10-12, 03:34 PM
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I was expecting to either run the wires externally or possibly do as you said and modify the frame to route internally. I know if I do the latter it's not going to be easy. It would make for a nice winter project next year though.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
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I was expecting to either run the wires externally or possibly do as you said and modify the frame to route internally. I know if I do the latter it's not going to be easy. It would make for a nice winter project next year though.
You must be out of your damn mind!!!!!
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Originally Posted by dgasmd View Post
You must be out of your damn mind!!!!!
Haha! I might be. I've always been function over form if it came down to it. To be honest though, the new Record group on my caad9 shifts sooooo freaking nicely that I'm doubting the need for EPS altogether. The front shifting is JUST as good Shimano's, and the multiple rear shifting is incredible. It's snappy and there's feedback in the thumb lever with every click just like SRAM, but at the same time it has that smoothness and solid feeling that Shimano shifting has. I've owned 5600, 6700, Rival, and Red. Campagnolo Record blows them all away. I really am thinking to just put SR 11 on my Look 595 and wait a few years until EPS/Di2 become the norm before I buy it.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
I really am thinking to just put SR 11 on my Look 595 and wait a few years until EPS/Di2 become the norm before I buy it.
not a bad option. i thought more about your need for a second set of campy wheels and i would highly recommend using record hubs. it will insure that you can swap wheels without doing any RD adjustments. some aftermarket hubs may dont retain the exact spacing between the frame and first cog.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling View Post
Haha! I might be. I've always been function over form if it came down to it. To be honest though, the new Record group on my caad9 shifts sooooo freaking nicely that I'm doubting the need for EPS altogether. The front shifting is JUST as good Shimano's, and the multiple rear shifting is incredible. It's snappy and there's feedback in the thumb lever with every click just like SRAM, but at the same time it has that smoothness and solid feeling that Shimano shifting has. I've owned 5600, 6700, Rival, and Red. Campagnolo Record blows them all away. I really am thinking to just put SR 11 on my Look 595 and wait a few years until EPS/Di2 become the norm before I buy it.
To mention SCRAM and Chitmano in the sentence as Campagnolo will send you to hell, so stop it!!! I have 11 SR in one bike and Record 10 Sp in another and the SR is considerably smoother, but they are bot as good as it gets. As much as I am trying to find a reason to get EPS, which would make me get another bike, I can't really come up with anything other than novelty. Performance is really not going to be that much of an improvement I think. I still want it though.
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Went to the LBS and had to educate the guy that the frame in stock is a 2008.
Still thinking about it though.....
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