cycling more safe than motorcycles
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As of this post...
Top speed on my bicycle - 40 mph
Top speed on my sportbike - 163 mph
Yeah, i would say cycling is a bit safer in my case. Lol
Top speed on my bicycle - 40 mph
Top speed on my sportbike - 163 mph
Yeah, i would say cycling is a bit safer in my case. Lol
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From the sounds that the cameraguy makes, I don't think he enjoyed that spill.
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Fatalities per million hours of exposure:
Motorcycle: 8.8
Bicycle .47
https://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm
So Motorcycling is an order of magnitude more dangerous, persumably due to the higher speeds and forces.
Motorcycle: 8.8
Bicycle .47
https://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm
So Motorcycling is an order of magnitude more dangerous, persumably due to the higher speeds and forces.
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Both can be crushed by cagers, but if a car turns in front of a bicycle the cyclist generally impacts the car at under 20mph, frequently under 15mph, unless going downhill. Meanwhile motorcycles frequently broadside cars at 30-50+ mph, which does a lot more damage.
I've spent a lot of time on two wheels, many more hours in traffic on a motorcycle than a bicycle. (I try to ride my bicycles where I can avoid traffic, whereas a motorcycle you go where you want/need.) I feel far more in control of my destiny on a motorcycle because you get to act like all the other traffic on the road, instead of being constantly passed, honked at and encouraged to "GET ON THE G-D SIDEWALK!".
I'm safer on a motorcycle because I'm not stupid. I don't drink and ride (HUGE problem with older cruiser crowd!), and though I have a very powerful sportbike, I don't ride it like I'm on a racetrack because obviously the street is not a racetrack.
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Absolutely. It's far easier to kill oneself on a motorcycle, especially if you don't wear a helmet.
Both can be crushed by cagers, but if a car turns in front of a bicycle the cyclist generally impacts the car at under 20mph, frequently under 15mph, unless going downhill. Meanwhile motorcycles frequently broadside cars at 30-50+ mph, which does a lot more damage.
I've spent a lot of time on two wheels, many more hours in traffic on a motorcycle than a bicycle. (I try to ride my bicycles where I can avoid traffic, whereas a motorcycle you go where you want/need.) I feel far more in control of my destiny on a motorcycle because you get to act like all the other traffic on the road, instead of being constantly passed, honked at and encouraged to "GET ON THE G-D SIDEWALK!".
I'm safer on a motorcycle because I'm not stupid. I don't drink and ride (HUGE problem with older cruiser crowd!), and though I have a very powerful sportbike, I don't ride it like I'm on a racetrack because obviously the street is not a racetrack.
Both can be crushed by cagers, but if a car turns in front of a bicycle the cyclist generally impacts the car at under 20mph, frequently under 15mph, unless going downhill. Meanwhile motorcycles frequently broadside cars at 30-50+ mph, which does a lot more damage.
I've spent a lot of time on two wheels, many more hours in traffic on a motorcycle than a bicycle. (I try to ride my bicycles where I can avoid traffic, whereas a motorcycle you go where you want/need.) I feel far more in control of my destiny on a motorcycle because you get to act like all the other traffic on the road, instead of being constantly passed, honked at and encouraged to "GET ON THE G-D SIDEWALK!".
I'm safer on a motorcycle because I'm not stupid. I don't drink and ride (HUGE problem with older cruiser crowd!), and though I have a very powerful sportbike, I don't ride it like I'm on a racetrack because obviously the street is not a racetrack.
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Typical 41. Apples to oranges and someone makes a thread about it. And out comes the stats to prove it. Sheeesh. What's next? Playing Xbox is safer than playing basketball?
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I don't take exactly the same route. I get on the highway on my sportbike and I'm there. I ride a MUP under that same highway on my bicycle, then have to ride through the hood for a bit, finally it ends up being about 2.5 miles more.
But I agree they're more the same than not.
Anyway, the OP was comedy but we took the opportunity to make a legitimate discussion about it.
But I agree they're more the same than not.
Anyway, the OP was comedy but we took the opportunity to make a legitimate discussion about it.
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Feeling safer ≠ Being safer. While there are, of course, all sorts of variables one can pull into this, greater speed = greater danger, any way you slice it.
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I think I am safer in my house if a motorcycle crashes into it while playing the Xbox than if I am playing out on a open court and a motorcycle hits me while making a slam dunk.
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I bet a basketball game like Horse is safer than playing one of those Wii games.
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Absolutely. It's far easier to kill oneself on a motorcycle, especially if you don't wear a helmet.
Both can be crushed by cagers, but if a car turns in front of a bicycle the cyclist generally impacts the car at under 20mph, frequently under 15mph, unless going downhill. Meanwhile motorcycles frequently broadside cars at 30-50+ mph, which does a lot more damage.
I've spent a lot of time on two wheels, many more hours in traffic on a motorcycle than a bicycle. (I try to ride my bicycles where I can avoid traffic, whereas a motorcycle you go where you want/need.) I feel far more in control of my destiny on a motorcycle because you get to act like all the other traffic on the road, instead of being constantly passed, honked at and encouraged to "GET ON THE G-D SIDEWALK!".
I'm safer on a motorcycle because I'm not stupid. I don't drink and ride (HUGE problem with older cruiser crowd!), and though I have a very powerful sportbike, I don't ride it like I'm on a racetrack because obviously the street is not a racetrack.
Both can be crushed by cagers, but if a car turns in front of a bicycle the cyclist generally impacts the car at under 20mph, frequently under 15mph, unless going downhill. Meanwhile motorcycles frequently broadside cars at 30-50+ mph, which does a lot more damage.
I've spent a lot of time on two wheels, many more hours in traffic on a motorcycle than a bicycle. (I try to ride my bicycles where I can avoid traffic, whereas a motorcycle you go where you want/need.) I feel far more in control of my destiny on a motorcycle because you get to act like all the other traffic on the road, instead of being constantly passed, honked at and encouraged to "GET ON THE G-D SIDEWALK!".
I'm safer on a motorcycle because I'm not stupid. I don't drink and ride (HUGE problem with older cruiser crowd!), and though I have a very powerful sportbike, I don't ride it like I'm on a racetrack because obviously the street is not a racetrack.
I love motorcycles and have owned my share. I sold my last one last fall and am kind of looking out for another.

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yeah, but if you'd quit showing off with those slam dunks and just play regular basketball, that would change everything.
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Well this is the 41, as I clearly qualified. Not the 20 (Commuting). So you're already making an apple to oranges comparison. And the OP linked a road race footage, not an MUP commute. I'm not suggesting that riding a motorbike is safer than riding a bicycle, or vice versa even, but everything has its risks and rewards. I'd rather be at the end of a bungee cord, than safely curled away on a Lazyboy.
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Okaaaay. To each their own.
I guess you'll never appreciate the sound of a desmodromic V-twin at full chat, a Lambo V10, or.........you get the idea. But let me guess - you're attuned to the different "swooshing" sounds of carbon fiber road wheels, "That one's gotta be a Zipp."
I guess you'll never appreciate the sound of a desmodromic V-twin at full chat, a Lambo V10, or.........you get the idea. But let me guess - you're attuned to the different "swooshing" sounds of carbon fiber road wheels, "That one's gotta be a Zipp."
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Okaaaay. To each their own.
I guess you'll never appreciate the sound of a desmodromic V-twin at full chat, a Lambo V10, or.........you get the idea. But let me guess - you're attuned to the different "swooshing" sounds of carbon fiber road wheels, "That one's gotta be a Zipp."
I guess you'll never appreciate the sound of a desmodromic V-twin at full chat, a Lambo V10, or.........you get the idea. But let me guess - you're attuned to the different "swooshing" sounds of carbon fiber road wheels, "That one's gotta be a Zipp."
Ah ducati. I guess they're the pinarello/cervelo of sportbikes.
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That would imply that poseurs flock to Pinarello and Cervelo.
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The sound of a Desmodronic V-twin at full chat on the track is pure heaven!!!!!!..Oh and not all Ducati owners are poser's!!!!!!...I don't do Starbucks, and I pitched a $20,000 2 week old Ducati 1098 down the track. I wouldn't call racing CCS with a Ducati posing...Expensive, but not posing!... But yes cycling is much more safe!
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Fatalities per million hours of exposure:
Motorcycle: 8.8
Bicycle .47
https://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm
Motorcycle: 8.8
Bicycle .47
https://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm
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A motorcyclist lost control and dumped himself on I-95 in Waltham, MA this morning, slid across three lanes of morning rush hour traffic, and came to rest under my front bumper. I flat-spotted all four of my tires to keep from hitting him since I was doing around 75 mph when he went down and came sliding at me. Surprisingly, he was able to get up and, with my help, get his bike back across all the lanes to the breakdown lane, leaving several pieces behind, including his front brake lever and lights. I can't believe he didn't kill himself, or that I didn't hit him. It was a miracle.