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Soliciting Input RE wheels

Old 02-26-12, 09:48 PM
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Soliciting Input RE wheels

I've been combing over the board finding input on wheel upgrades and wanted to get some direct input. I have a 2011 Giant TCR Composite with Giant P-R2 wheels, which I reckon are generic/starter wheels. They roll fine, but I sense there might be something better out there.

I also picked up a trainer recently and was looking at possibly getting either a spare rear wheel to prevent wear on my training tires, or just getting a new set of wheels so the P-R2s become trainer-specific.

I'm on a budget and would like to keep the wheels under $400, so my options are limited by that. Picking up a spare rear on CL or something could run less than $100 with cassette, but that $100 might be best suited for new wheels. I've been looking at possibly Soul, PSIMET, or Neuvations, but was hoping to get some constructive input from you all.

Rider facts - 175lbs, lots of climbing, would use new wheels for training and possibly a race here or there of some sort.

Thanks.
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Old 02-26-12, 09:51 PM
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as far as a trainer wheel is concerned, why don't you just use an old tire for the trainer?
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Old 02-26-12, 09:54 PM
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I am right now. I'd just like to have a trainer specific wheel, which will just be an old tire, for ease of use. I know, I know. I am lazy.
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Old 02-26-12, 10:06 PM
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'10 Mavic Ksyrium (I believe at Performance or Nashbar) for $400.
and use your OEM wheels for the trainer.
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Old 02-27-12, 09:01 PM
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Thanks. I'll look into the Mavic's.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen View Post
'10 Mavic Ksyrium (I believe at Performance or Nashbar) for $400.
and use your OEM wheels for the trainer.
That's an awesome price for the Elites...
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Old 02-27-12, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by snowsubi View Post
Thanks. I'll look into the Mavic's.
Hope you can score them if they are still available. Good luck.

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That's an awesome price for the Elites...
Tell me about it. If I were building a crit bike, I'd snatch them up.
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Old 02-27-12, 09:40 PM
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Yup, $399 just ordered some today. was looking at black current years model but price was to hard to pass up. I spent $450 but I bought a performance member card for 30 bucks also. Had it shipped to store here for free.
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Originally Posted by nastystang View Post
Yup, $399 just ordered some today. was looking at black current years model but price was to hard to pass up. I spent $450 but I bought a performance member card for 30 bucks also. Had it shipped to store here for free.
Nice. Good for you.
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Old 02-28-12, 01:32 PM
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Thanks for the input again. I will have to do some more research on the Mavic's, especially with the older model wheel. PSIMET can get me set up with something for around the same price, so I need to sort out what would be the best buy. At some point I'll have to pull the trigger. Thanks.
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Old 02-28-12, 01:52 PM
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the older mavic is slightly heavier due to the hub and the rim isn't black. nothing of significance changed regarding the rim or spokes.

it's a fantastically strong wheel despite the spoke count due to the rim design.
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According to performance the wheels I bought, 2009 I believe are 1550 grams and were also available in black but the silver is what they have and are clearing out. the sight says they are pretty much the same wheel as present. I will see when they get here.
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I have the A23 Wheelset Comp Build ($400) on one bike and They are excellent. Great Bang for the buck!

https://www.bikemania.biz/Velocity_A2...s_road_a23.htm.
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I like my Vuelta Corsa Superlites. $350, 1460g. Great value for the money. An even cheaper option is the Forte Titans at PB. $150 for the set and about 1800g.
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I highly highly highly recommend Forte Titans or Neuvation M28's. They're the same wheel as Fortes are rebranded m28's. Look up Neuvation m28 and you'll see the highly rated product. On top of that, I've compared the wheelset to mavic kysyrium's and bontrager race lights and the m28's were BETTER. For 250 or so, the wheels are lighter by almost 2 hundred grams and they never stop spinning!!!

I don't mind coming across as a shill as I truly believe in them. Every time someone asks me for what kind of wheels to get, unless their price range is 600 and up where they can get Williams wheels or Zipps, I'll always recommend m28's. Anything around the 400 dollar range new just doesn't perform as well...

That said, I've also read about hub flange failure. Not sure if that's plainly bc of poor r and d design on the hub's strength but I believe that that happens to any wheel if not properly tensioned or ridden by a rider above the recommended weight in accordance to spoke count.
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Old 03-01-12, 09:29 AM
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One would expect an ultralight wheel to have some durability issues particularly if the rider is over 200 pounds.

I don't think there is any free lunch here.
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Neuvations are not bad for the money. I have a pair (R28), but they contantly need truing every thousand miles or so. Not to mention I had to send them back for a rear rim replacement. The rim developed cracks by the spokes, fairly common. Of course Nuevation rebuilt the wheel using the old hub and shipped it back in less than a week ($60). I have a set of Mavic Ksyrium Elites (2010). They are great wheels and I have never had a spoke wrench on them. $399 is a great deal for Elites, you won't be disappointed.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
One would expect an ultralight wheel to have some durability issues particularly if the rider is over 200 pounds.

I don't think there is any free lunch here.
Tell me about it....I could SOOOOOooooooo make a ton of money if I could figure out how to sell free lunches....
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
One would expect an ultralight wheel to have some durability issues particularly if the rider is over 200 pounds.

I don't think there is any free lunch here.
Ya so make your decision wisely as weight does affect the lifetime of a wheel.
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Points well taken. Guess I need to put down the beer and hop on the trainer

I imagine that any of the recommended wheels will be an upgrade from the Giant stock set and have a great list of wheels to keep reading up on. Thanks.
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Old 03-01-12, 09:52 PM
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I do need to follow up with Psimet. Too quick of a turnaround on that email quote Already exceeding expectations.
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Originally Posted by snowsubi View Post
I do need to follow up with Psimet. Too quick of a turnaround on that email quote Already exceeding expectations.
Follow up with Rob. He spent a lot of time with me going back and forth. And I then waited patiently... And now I'm loving my new wheels. (https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ions?highlight=)

FWIW, I upgraded to my Psimet's from Mavic Askiums, and considered the Elites. But I'm really happy I went with custom made. Kinlin XR-300's (the 30mm rim is more aero, and pisser cool looking) laced to White Industry hubs. You'd need to up your budget for the WI hubs, but I think it would be well worth it. They are SWEET! And made in the USA with a Ti freehub. Check out this review, https://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/view...hp?f=65&t=6940

So, up your budget and eat rice and beans for a while!
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