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2012 Ultegra 6700 or 20xx DA 7800 Group?

Old 03-23-12, 12:57 PM
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2012 Ultegra 6700 or 20xx DA 7800 Group?

Sooorry to be adding to the "which one?" cacophony, but BF is my only hope right now.

Trying decide between:

Both sets are new and include 8 pieces (cranks, chain, brakes, shifters, derailuers, bb)

Ultegra 6700, 2012 model year, includes cables - 950$
DA, 7800, 2004-??, 7801 shifters, no cables - 900$


which would you buy and why?

thanks,
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Having used both, the 6700; nice as the 7800 is, it doesn't have the under bar cable routing. Shifting is the same with both (close enough to not notice any difference), with cables, the price will be almost the same for both you have listed.

If you have any issues with the 7800, you may have issues with warranty, although if new it should have 3 years, if you are buying new now, it will be at least 4 years old stock, probably older (7900 was introduced in 2008) and you may have issues with getting this honored.
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I have used all. 7800 is butttttttttttttter!
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If the 7800 is in great shape, then that's what I'll buy.

Shimano hit the sweet spot with the 7800. I'm of the view that it is the best-performing road group Shimano ever made. And the second-hand market proves it with pricing. If all Shimano ever did was tuck the cables under the handlebar on the 7800 and call it 7900, then all would have been right with the world.
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Buying an 8 year old group seems kind of short sighted. Unless it's still in the box, it's going to have 8 years of wear and tear on it. Also, the price on the 6700 group is nothing special, so no hurry there: https://www.probikekit.com/us/compone...pset-grey.html
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I've used both and also agree that I'd choose 6700, but for me, it's a largely a matter of ergonomics.

If possible, try both and then pick the one you like better. The older levers have more a pistol grip, but I don't like the "rounded" frontal portion of brake/shift lever as much as the flatter new style lever. The new lever feels much better to me under hard braking. The pressure is more evenly distributed across each finger. The hidden shifter cables is also a plus, but I didn't mind the older style 'exposed' cables.

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I have the 7800 on one and 6600 on the other. The 7800 is way better I assume the 6700 might be closer but the 7800 stuff is great.
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both groups are new
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Originally Posted by chi-james View Post
both groups are new
wrong.

you should be able to find a 7800 group cheaper.

i ebayed my group for under 700 shipped. needed to replace a bolt and one hood, but made the seller pay for the hood.
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both groups are good
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Coin toss............I have DA 7800 RD, brakes and FD w/ Ultegra 6700 shifters, as people are saying both are excellent.
I also ride sram Force (post 2010 series) and must say it is different shifting dynamics but quality on par with shimano indeed.
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FYI, there are still people out there that would choose 7800 over 7900.
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wrong? both groups that I was considering were NIB. "should" is drastically different than "can"

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wrong.

you should be able to find a 7800 group cheaper.

i ebayed my group for under 700 shipped. needed to replace a bolt and one hood, but made the seller pay for the hood.
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if the 7800 is new, there is no choice but 7800. 7800 is smoother than 7900 and 6700. It's butter. I still see more 7800 in races than 6700 0r 7900.

7800 is the better mechanical group vs the 7900 or 6700. 6700 or 7900 feels clunky vs 7800.

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Originally Posted by chi-james View Post
Sooorry to be adding to the "which one?" cacophony, but BF is my only hope right now.

Trying decide between:

Both sets are new and include 8 pieces (cranks, chain, brakes, shifters, derailuers, bb)

Ultegra 6700, 2012 model year, includes cables - 950$
DA, 7800, 2004-??, 7801 shifters, no cables - 900$


which would you buy and why?

thanks,
James
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Originally Posted by Rutnick View Post
if the 7800 is new, there is no choice but 7800. 7800 is smoother than 7900 and 6700. It's butter. I still see more 7800 in races than 6700 0r 7900.

7800 is the better mechanical group vs the 7900 or 6700. 6700 or 7900 feels clunky vs 7800.

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What are you trying to say?
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I haven't tried 6700 or 7900 so take my comments with a grain of salt. I remember reading by many that 7900 wasn't as smooth or refined as 7800, and that to many 6700 was a better mechanical group than 7900. If you don't mind the cables sticking out, 7800 is a fine group, ultra-smooth. If you want carbon and nicer cable routing, then choose 6700. You can't go wrong with either.
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I have two bikes, one has 7800 group and the other has 6700 group. The 6700 has chunkier fatter brake levers/shifters with a hole underneath them where you can feel the mechanisim, wasn't a fan at first but used to them now. The 7800 levers are skinnier without hole underneath. The 6700 brakes stop better IMO (both have genuine Shimano pads). The 6700 seems to clunk into every gear whereas the 7800 seems smoother. The 7800 group is about 4-5 years old but serviced regularly and cables replaced etc and the 6700 group is about 12 months old and is serviced regularly as well by the same mechanic. The cable routing isn't an issue for me.
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Originally Posted by chi-james View Post
wrong? both groups that I was considering were NIB. "should" is drastically different than "can"
7800 is last generation dura ace. ultegra at the time was 6600.

the new dura ace is 7900 and ultegra is 6700.

NIB is different than new. You have old stock NIB v. new packaged components.
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