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First Ride With Sram Apex

Old 03-23-12, 03:00 PM
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First Ride With Sram Apex

Love it.

But that saddle needs to be burned.

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Old 03-23-12, 03:03 PM
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WTF is up with that bar?
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Originally Posted by foresthill View Post
WTF is up with that bar?


Is it not Bike Forums approved?
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Old 03-23-12, 03:14 PM
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it's an ergo bar with the hoods pretty high on the ramp. is this really worthy of a WTF?
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Yeah, the other guy with Litespeed's bar was angled a bit strangely, I don't see anything wrong here except that the bar is ergo and a bit high. If it works for the rider, why should we care?
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Originally Posted by megalowmatt View Post
Love it. [/IMG]
Nice bike...would you mind expanding on your impression of Apex?
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Didn't mean to bash your bike. Looks like a great ride. If it's comfy, then more power to you. But if you want a bar with flat top of the drops, they do make those.
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Originally Posted by foresthill View Post
Didn't mean to bash your bike. Looks like a great ride. If it's comfy, then more power to you. But if you want a bar with flat top of the drops, they do make those.
No problem . Those just happened to come with the bike and I prefer flat tops with a bit of rise on the hoods. I rarely if ever ride in the drops so the ergo part doesn't do much for me.
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
Nice bike...would you mind expanding on your impression of Apex?
I should preface this by saying that I am more of a "smell the roses" kind of rider but I live in an area that has the options of a lot of good hills and like to be challenged as well. You just won't find me out on a "hammerfest". Ha ha.

Anyway, I have always ridden Shimano road components and aside from Sram x9 on my mountain bike this is my first go at it. There wasn't a lot of first hand experience when I was researching buying this bike with Apex so I thought I would at least give my initial impressions.

With Apex the gearing resembles the range of a triple but the front is a compact double. The rear gearing is 11-32 with a longer cage derailleur to accommodate the 32 tooth gear. So for me this seems to be the perfect combination. On a 36 mile ride today the big ring combined with the range of the rear gears worked great. I am guessing we had ~2800 feet of elevation gain and for most of the hills I was good staying in the big ring, although I'll admit I was probably cross chaining more than most would do here. On one or two of the more challenging hills, I rode in the small ring and it was really nice knowing the option of that 32 tooth cog in the back was there. It's like in Spinal Tap when Nigel says "it goes to 11" .

I think for competitive riders Apex isn't going to be an option. I'm just looking for comfort and fun on long rides...so the combination of the titanium frame ad Apex seems to be a perfect.

Hope this helps.

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I think you found the MB Ti option that most people don't even know about. Most think it starts at Rival. Glad you're enjoying it. They have an excellent reputation.
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I think you found the MB Ti option that most people don't even know about. Most think it starts at Rival. Glad you're enjoying it. They have an excellent reputation.
You're right. It's not listed in the titanium bikes section but rather in the Sram section. I was kind of surprised when I found it.

The saddle completely sucks, though.

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Originally Posted by megalowmatt View Post
No problem . Those just happened to come with the bike and I prefer flat tops with a bit of rise on the hoods. I rarely if ever ride in the drops so the ergo part doesn't do much for me.
Having your fit dialed in to where you can ride in the drops is really helpful in a headwind. Isn't it windy in SD?

If you do start using the drops and hate that bar (I don't care for ergo, that straight section in the drops is just ... odd), I would suggest the FSA Omega Compact as a cheap solution. Short reach, can easily make a nice flat top with the hoods, shallow drop, hooks you can actually get your hands in.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
Having your fit dialed in to where you can ride in the drops is really helpful in a headwind. Isn't it windy in SD?

If you do start using the drops and hate that bar (I don't care for ergo, that straight section in the drops is just ... odd), I would suggest the FSA Omega Compact as a cheap solution. Short reach, can easily make a nice flat top with the hoods, shallow drop, hooks you can actually get your hands in.
Thanks for the suggestion on those bars. That may be a good option in the future.

It's usually not very windy in my area but sometimes it can whip up from time to time.
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Old 03-23-12, 08:07 PM
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Same here, those FSA Omega Compact bars do look pretty sweet. Very strongly considering getting 'em once I get a shorter stem.
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they have the same compact drops on a few bars, including the wing pro (also aluminum, and cheap) and the k-force and sl-k (both carbon). there are some variations in the tops, the length of the ramps, etc.

currently I ride the sl-k but I rode omega compact a while.

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Old 03-23-12, 10:22 PM
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WTF is up with those smileys? are they angry villagers? wft?
the bars look like they could rotate down just a smidge, a wee little.
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WTF is up with those smileys? are they angry villagers? wft? ...
not many smiles in those "smilies" are there?

but, yes, i think they are vigilantes of some sort.
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Same here, those FSA Omega Compact bars do look pretty sweet. Very strongly considering getting 'em once I get a shorter stem.
Compact bar such as that one will by itself shorten the reach by up to 30 mm - you might want to get it first and then decide if you still need that shorter stem.
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brah, you live in a hilly area but you rarely go on the drops? you gotta live life even for 1min > sometimes just saying.

Nice bike.
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therere a lot of hood dwellers here, and hes not the worst of them.
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Could you expand a little on the quality of the Apex components, I may have a frame that will go well with that groupset and would like to get a users opinion. Are the levers/shifters crappy quality feeling, kind of like plasticky Sora stuff? Do the shifters feel good when shifting?
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Could you expand a little on the quality of the Apex components, I may have a frame that will go well with that groupset and would like to get a users opinion. Are the levers/shifters crappy quality feeling, kind of like plasticky Sora stuff? Do the shifters feel good when shifting?
In researching, my understanding is that Apex is on par with Rival minus the carbon levers. In fact, Apex is almost 3/4 lb lighter than 105 and around 1/3 lb lighter than Ultegra. Personally I don't think there's a Sram road equivalent of Sora or Tiagra.

I have very little experience with Sora but the shifters/levers do not feel plasticky at all to me. Coming from Tiagra, Apex feels *a little* more substantial in the grip area but does not have the sharp rise and that "bulb" kind of thing at the top of the shifter, although that's most likely there because of the gear indicator window, which Apex does not have. I like the Apex grip better.

While different from Shimano, the shifting is really crisp. You know it's shifted and there's no hesitation. In fact, it seems much better at shifting under load. There's a trim in the big ring but not the small one.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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Originally Posted by Rx Rider View Post
WTF is up with those smileys? are they angry villagers? wft?
the bars look like they could rotate down just a smidge, a wee little.
it's an angry mob because the saddle sucks.
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I believe apex is a long cage only RD, it works as well as Force, it needs to be set up right or you'll go crazy.
after major hit shifter stills works great. shifts under serious load and sometimes you can get a quad downshift instead of the usual triple. and the brake grips are perfect, but then what do I know I thonk the Tiagra works well also.

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Originally Posted by megalowmatt View Post
In researching, my understanding is that Apex is on par with Rival minus the carbon levers.
The lever is a minor thing. Every component is a little lighter.

the brakes are narrower-- less tire clearance-- for rival and aero-ish shaped. The crank arms are hollow aluminum instead of solid. There is a short cage and midcage option and apex does indeed come in midcage only. (Long cage is a mtb thing.)

I have rival on my bike and my wife's has apex.
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