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Trek Domane vs Trek Madone

Old 03-27-12, 03:05 AM
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Trek Domane vs Trek Madone

So Trek is releasing their plush bike line, Domane. The thing I don't understand is that for years they claimed that their Madones are the "true balanced bike without compromise", "So that you don't have to choose between performance and comforts." I wonder how Trek are going to justify themself now. As the Madone would be treated as the performance bike, and the Domane would be treated as the comforts plush bike. What do you think?

for those who don't know: https://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ry-trek_209335
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Domane or Madone

I think that the Domane is the Madone with the letters switched around. I bet it will replace the Madone line next year
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Originally Posted by 1112 View Post
I think that the Domane is the Madone with the letters switched around. I bet it will replace the Madone line next year
I highly doubt they would replace Madone with Domane. It is clearly designed as a plush bike, much like the Specialized Roubaix.
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I'd be interested in taking one for a spin but, to be honest, I'm pretty fond of my Madone.
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I suspect they'll just offer a taller head tube and maybe slightly shorter top tube. The different naming is probably easier for the average consumer to understand vs. the current H2 H3 offerings on the Madone. Everyone else uses different naming for plush vs. race (Synapse vs. Supersix, Felt Z vs. F, Specialized Tarmac vs. Roubaix). My guess is we'll see a single race oriented Madone line, and then the taller head tube more comfort oriented bikes might be Domane.
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Originally Posted by AddictedToMusic View Post
So Trek is releasing their plush bike line, Domane. The thing I don't understand is that for years they claimed that their Madones are the "true balanced bike without compromise", "So that you don't have to choose between performance and comforts." I wonder how Trek are going to justify themself now. As the Madone would be treated as the performance bike, and the Domane would be treated as the comforts plush bike. What do you think?

for those who don't know: https://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ry-trek_209335
hey, it's marketing... it's BS...

even when they say the new models are all new. they really mean the ad copy is all new.
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it even sounds like roubaix.
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We'll see if its as successful on the cobbles as the Roubaix this next week.
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Originally Posted by adriano View Post
it even sounds like roubaix.
I am guessing Fabian Cancellara prefers the Roubaix, thats why Trek have to do something similar for him.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
We'll see if its as successful on the cobbles as the Roubaix this next week.
only way we'll know so is if Cancellera talks to the media about the bike, whether he wins or loses.

because he's won on other bikes, and lost his first outing on the new bike.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
only way we'll know so is if Cancellera talks to the media about the bike, whether he wins or loses.

because he's won on other bikes, and lost his first outing on the new bike.
But if you saw the race last year, you can't really blame on the bike. Plus if he wins this year, for sure he will advertise the bike for Trek. But if he loses, I doubt he will talk bad about the bike niether, since Trek is one of the major sponsors for the team as you can tell from the name.

The only thing I don't know is how Trek is going to explain to people that the Madone is still the bike with both "performance and comfort" when they decided to separate these two into two lines of product.
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They've had two available geometries for the Madone for a while. Why not just spin off a new model?
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
They've had two available geometries for the Madone for a while. Why not just spin off a new model?
that was mentioned in the article linked a few posts back. H1, H2, H3 are not that clear to consumers.

people get on here a lot saying they have a Defy, a Roubaix, a Synapse. H3 Madone? not so much.
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Originally Posted by AddictedToMusic View Post
I am guessing Fabian Cancellara prefers the Roubaix, thats why Trek have to do something similar for him.
he must have really liked how the model name rolled off the tongue.
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Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
only way we'll know so is if Cancellera talks to the media about the bike, whether he wins or loses.
because he's won on other bikes, and lost his first outing on the new bike.
From: https://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...ry-trek_209335

The most recent version of the UCI’s approved frames list includes a series of newly approved Trek road frames: the Domane 1, 2 and 3. The frames were approved on January 18, about two weeks before Cancellara’s Strade victory aboard a black, mystery Trek frame. No other new frames from Trek have been approved since the 6-series Madone last year, leading us to believe that the Domane is very likely the frame used by Cancellara at Strade.
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I haven't posted here in a while. Been busy at work and at home... now here I am during "down-time" and I came across this thread... So this is the "surprise" the Trek guy was telling me last month. Anyway, for those who haven't seen it yet, I came across this which shows you a bigger and better view of the bike.

https://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...mishaps_210362
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How long before we have a "What's your Domane Name" thread??
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Will it be a Summer or Fall release? I can just imagine the first person to post here with a brand spankin' new Domane... "This is my DOMANE!"
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I'm a trek fan and I think this move is just GHEY. Let's copy off of the Roubaix since they sell a lot, F that. I'm riding my last trek.
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I'm a trek fan and I think this move is just GHEY. Let's copy off of the Roubaix since they sell a lot, F that. I'm riding my last trek.

you can't be serious.

you do realize that many other bikes like the roubaix exist? -- 'endurance' geometry with a tall head tube, shorter top tube, vertical compliance, the ability to fit 28mm tires..

roubaix, synapse, defy, z-series, it goes on. I can name more bikes like this, but I can't name anyone besides trek who had only one bike model name (I realize they have series numbers) that have 3 different geometries.

in short, trek isn't copying the roubaix. trek is killing off the madone H3 models and making them into a new and improved bike.
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I know there are other bikes like the roubaix. My disappointment is if you label your bike as comfortable and a race bike for Years then switch your line up to what someone else is doing that's just lame. I love my Madone but if I knew they were going to go this route I would have bought a Roubaix (which I was intrested in) BTW rumors are a new Aero trek is on the way for the this years tour.
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The Madone is a comfortable bike for many people, precisely because it has three different geometries that are available. It makes sense to spin off the (what basically amounts to different frames anyway) into a different name.
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Regarding the OP; is this your first realization that what passes for "technical data" or "science" in the cycling world is, 90% of the time, marketing?

Look at how many "scientific" ways Cannondale justified their variations on CF/Alu frames as they worked on securing the supply chain that would provide them with full CF bikes. (I ride a Cannondale by the way...doesn't make the science/marketing any less ridiculous.)

The sheer inanity that I see in marketing copy about wheels is beyond baffling. Luckily for the bike companies, none of their consumers have any understanding of the physics involved.
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Funny. I thought Trek was smart having the same bike with different geometry. I get lost in all of the different models and what they offer and comparing components, etc. I think Trek makes it pretty easy: the first digit gives you a frame, the second digit gives you a group and then you pick the geometry. Cannondale isn't too bad: model name and component level. Specialized is the worst one for silly meaningless names.

The rain has ended, tomorrow is going to be sunny and warm and I'm gonna test ride one of those Madone 5.2 H<something-or-other>. Red is the fastest color, right?
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I called the guy at the Trek Store and he thinks that this is just marketing. He's thinking that since Trek now has new generation riders, this Domane maybe just be the new Madone. The dude gave me a history of how it all started from the 5000 and the name changed all the way to the 5.9 until Lance came on board and basically gave it a new name - the Madone. So with the Schleck brothers and Cancellara on board, not only that Trek made a new platform for the new-gen riders, but also gave it a new name. Only time will tell...
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