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Anyone Riding Look Keo Blades?

Old 03-30-12, 06:01 PM
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Anyone Riding Look Keo Blades?

Looking to buy new pedals soon and curious how the blades are. For anyone that owns a pair how's the durability? Is the wider platform even noticeable compared to other pedals or is it more marketing nonsense?

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Went from Speedplay to Blades. The bigger platform was immediately apparent, but that new pedal sensation went away after a few rides. I got the 16nm version cuz my Speedplays were unclipping accidentally, so I decided to go for something super secure to get over that phobia. Definitely worked but I would be lying if I say I don't miss the double sided no-look clip in of the Speedplays during fast group rides. Oh, the bearings took a while to spin free on my blades. They are also known to get squeaky.
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Went from Keo Carbons on my old bike to Keo Blades and didn't notice a difference in width. My main concern was durability of the carbon blade if I missed a clip-in or clipped a corner.... hasn't been an issue. Overall they're light, secure and smooth; very happy.
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I've broken the 12 nM blades twice. I don't detect any differences while riding and clipping in compared
to Keo Max 2 Carbon.
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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27 View Post
I've broken the 12 nM blades twice. I don't detect any differences while riding and clipping in compared
to Keo Max 2 Carbon.
Did they break from regular use or were they clipped against the road?
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Old 03-30-12, 09:34 PM
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I have the Keo Blades on my new Madone and have had no issues so far. I was using cages on my old bike, so I can't compare to other similar pedals, but I was concerned about how long it would take to get over my fear of being "clipped in". It only took a few rides to get comfortable with them and now I'm very happy with how they work. Besides, they're made in France .... what's not to love about that? )
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Originally Posted by grnrcr View Post
Went from Speedplay to Blades. The bigger platform was immediately apparent, but that new pedal sensation went away after a few rides. I got the 16nm version cuz my Speedplays were unclipping accidentally, so I decided to go for something super secure to get over that phobia. Definitely worked but I would be lying if I say I don't miss the double sided no-look clip in of the Speedplays during fast group rides. Oh, the bearings took a while to spin free on my blades. They are also known to get squeaky.
honestly the best decision i ever made, was to set my look classics to the max tension level and just track stand at all intersections. i know i wont be pulling out of my pedals any time soon!
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I've used both the 12 and the 16 (currently using 12's). I found the 16's a bit much tension for me (6'1"-195), and I've never unclipped on the 12's either. I bought the titanium version-very light!

Someone else noted a tendency to squeaking which I'm starting to hear on the left in the last week, but overall, no major complaints thus far...
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I went from platforms, to SPDs, to SpeedPlay Zero Chromoly, to 12 NM Look Keo Blade Ti pedals.

The Look Keo Blades are a tremendously more stable platform than the Zeros, sure they're harder to get into, but that goes away in a couple weeks. You'll be able to clip in without even looking in no time. I still have the Zeros on an extra bike, and whenever I ride it, I really do hate using them for a variety of reasons. I'm thinking of just getting a set of look keo 2 max to replace the speedplays on the extra bike.
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Wider platform than the older Keos, more sold and stable feel, and the older Keos are fine, the Blades are great. Two sets of Blades zero point zero problems for about 8 months.
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Changed from speedplays to blades like them alot more, do miss the double side entry.
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Originally Posted by wrr1020 View Post
Did they break from regular use or were they clipped against the road?
Didn't clip them against the ground. Don't know exactly how it happened, but most likely when trying to clip in with the pedal flipped upside-down. Noticed a loss of tension in the pedal (very easy to click out, even when normal riding), then checked the pedal, found the carbon blade snapped in half.) It may have been the pedal itself somehow as I had the pedal replaced, and it hasn't happened since. Look took care of it every time and I got a loaner blade pedal both times, but it took about a month to get back from look each time. They said they were inspecting it.
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Old 03-31-12, 08:30 AM
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I have the 12 Nm Blade and love it. I was using Max 2s and then Speedplay Zeros before the Blades. Blade > Max 2 > Zero

Originally Posted by grnrcr View Post
They are also known to get squeaky.
The Blades are not known to get squeaky and neither are the Max 2s. The squeak was more of an issue with their older/cheaper pedals from what I understand. I've never experienced a single noise from either my Blades or Max 2s.

Originally Posted by McTufferton View Post
Went from Keo Carbons on my old bike to Keo Blades and didn't notice a difference in width. My main concern was durability of the carbon blade if I missed a clip-in or clipped a corner.... hasn't been an issue. Overall they're light, secure and smooth; very happy.
I actually notice the difference between my Blades and my Max 2s. I didn't even notice the platform was wider at first, but they felt different (more stable) and I eventually learned that the platform was wider. It's also interesting that people claim Speedplays are as stable as regular road pedals because I don't think this is the case. The pedal/cleat interface on Speedplays might have plenty of surface area, but the width from side to side is still a small distance. There is always going to be some play between the pedal and cleat springs in that particular mechanism so as a result the foot is always going to roll over that narrower pivot point. Bottom line: a wider pedal feels more stable under my feet.

As for all you scaredy-cats that crank the retention spring up in tension or buy 16 Nm Blades, I have to ask why? You guys must not understand how the Look mechanism works. You release ONLY when your heels move out. A higher tension does not keep your heels from moving out any more than with lesser tension. If you accidentally got out of your pedal, it would have happened the same whether on the 12 Nm or 16 Nm Blade. I got the 12 Nm Blade and there's absolutely no reason in the world you'd ever need more. Well, there is one exception and that is the psychological fear made obvious by this thread.

One more thing. The Blades do feel different in terms of the traditional spring vs "blade" mechanism. The Blades have a soft and crisp feel, while the Max 2s had a louder, more snappy feel.
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Old 03-31-12, 08:32 AM
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Been riding the Ti spindle 16nm versions and love them.
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re: why we crank the tension. Its just a security thing in a final sprint in a race. When your fatigued sometimes your smoothness is not there, so its nice to have a little extra hold.
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Thanks for the replies. Looks like i'll be ordering a set.
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Really like mine, 16nm version. Have always ridden Look pedals, but the Blades were my first Keo. Smooth, positive engagement/disengagement. Have been durable for me over about 5K miles.
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1.5 years and about 15000k - had to add some grease last year and stripped the allen bolt hole when the titanium axle of one pedal fused w my aluminum DA crank - Look replaced free of charge. Otherwise, no complaints.
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I like them, the wide pedal surface makes for a really stable pedalling surface. I find the feedback from clipping in great and more reassuring than the clip-in feeling of Keo 2 Maxes.

I've used both 12Nm and 16Nm models, and like the latter better because it feels more solid when hammering although I've never unclipped out of the 12Nm.
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Is it true ONLY the dealers have the "special" tool to replace the blade?

Been looking at these pedals for my other bike. I already have the 105s for my other bike which is noticeably wide but I'll give this a try.
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Is it true ONLY the dealers have the "special" tool to replace the blade?

Been looking at these pedals for my other bike. I already have the 105s for my other bike which is noticeably wide but I'll give this a try.
None of my friends in the industry have ever seen that tool for sale or offered by Look to purchase, I think that the special tool to replace the blade was marketed early on in production and Look may have decided to keep it in house. You have to send your pedals in to get them fixed now.
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bummer and what a hassle.

I'm getting the 16nm soon.
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Just purchased mine minutes ago. Got the CrMo version in 16nm for $142 using my EBAY bucks (no idea on why some people bid up to $130 for one that isn't covered by warranty. A brand new one from an official dealer on EBAY is $154). I can't wait.

btw, they're selling the spare blades @ Ribble but I wonder on how much would dealers charge to put them on (?) Assuming you're still within 2 years you can claim warranty as well.
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc View Post
None of my friends in the industry have ever seen that tool for sale or offered by Look to purchase, I think that the special tool to replace the blade was marketed early on in production and Look may have decided to keep it in house. You have to send your pedals in to get them fixed now.
Seriously? You can't just order the replacement 16nm blades and do it yourself? I have the 12nm and am looking to switch back over from my Speedplays. Was just hoping for the additional security of the 16nm and just assumed I could A) get the replacement blades, and B) replace them myself. Can someone confirm this?
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Originally Posted by Dfarlow View Post
Seriously? You can't just order the replacement 16nm blades and do it yourself? I have the 12nm and am looking to switch back over from my Speedplays. Was just hoping for the additional security of the 16nm and just assumed I could A) get the replacement blades, and B) replace them myself. Can someone confirm this?
I did some more searching around, some people on ebay supposedly sell a tool that does it... for what seems like a lot of money for a tool. I can't find a picture of the actual tool though.
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