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SRAM Not making inroads?

Old 04-08-12, 05:54 AM
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SRAM Not making inroads?

So, my girlfiend and I went on our first group ride with bicycle club. When I got to the parking lot of gathering for the various distance groups, I noticed all the bikes which I am very keen on.
Nobody had SRAM anything, no Red, Force, Rival, Apex...nothing. The majority was Dura Ace and Ultegra, Campy chorus, record with splatterings of 105 (girlfriends ride) and a few micro-shifts.

I was riding a pedal force RS2 w/ full (post 2010) sram force, and one guy asked if that was the new Red due to the graphics.
Shimano still taking the share of the biking world?
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Old 04-08-12, 06:07 AM
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Yes, Shimano seems to be #1. I am noticing more Sram than Campy these days. I certainly hope that Campy never goes the way of Mavic, Huret, Suntour etc...
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In my neck of the woods, I'd say it's about a 50/40/10 (Shimano/Sram/Campy) split. Being an owner of one Shimano and one Sram bike, I wouldn't say that one is decisively better than the other. I like Sram's 1-leaver shifting and it is a little lighter for the money, but they still seem to be working out some kinks. For instance, it's swell that the New Red FD comes with a chain catcher, but the fact that a company that puts so much emphasis on weight reduction adds a hunk of metal to their FD that shouldn't really even be necessary tells me they still haven't got the FD thing totally figured out.

I'm much more impressed with Sram's mountain bike stuff. I have an X5 shifter and RD on my 1x8 mountain bike, and in my opinion, the shifting is better than the shifting on my 3x9 XT bike.
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Old 04-08-12, 06:18 AM
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Shimano has come back to dominate Pro Tour again. Look at how many of these Classic teams have the bottons on the tops. Very handy.
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Campy's not going anywhere. It makes up less than 1% of the total bike market and has for a long while but will continue to occupy a good portion of the upper 1% of bikes.
I've been seeing SRAM everywhere in the road market, and they've been (of course) a staple in the mountain market for many years now.

OP, if you were in a group w/ bikes fitted w/ Campy anything, DuraAce, and Ultegra, I think it's just a fluke that there weren't several SRAM Red equipped bikes in there.
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There will always be those of us who ride nothing but Campy..but in my area, Sram shares about half the local market
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Originally Posted by Talewinds View Post
OP, if you were in a group w/ bikes fitted w/ Campy anything, DuraAce, and Ultegra, I think it's just a fluke that there weren't several SRAM Red equipped bikes in there.
I'd agree with this. Ever taken statistics? Your single group ride doesn't constitute a random sample of the whole population of race bikes. By the numbers Shimano is more popular than SRAM, but I'd like to see a breakdown of the specific grouppos. For instance, I'm pretty sure that in my neck of the woods Red is far more popular than Dura-Ace, and Rival may even be more popular than Ultegra (though I haven't paid as much attention to this). I think Shimano gains a lot of "votes" through its lower-end, enthusiast groupsets like Tiagra and Sora.
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Originally Posted by tenzing211 View Post
Yes, Shimano seems to be #1. I am noticing more Sram than Campy these days. I certainly hope that Campy never goes the way of Mavic, Huret, Suntour etc...
Pardon me for asking, but what does "the way of Mavic, Huret, Suntour, etc." mean?
Not trying to be a smartass, really don't know.
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There's nary a Sora bike to be found in any of the group rides I've frequented, including more beginner-oriented rides. However, I do live in Norcal where disposable income seems to be plentiful. In fact, I can't remember even seeing another rider with Sora hardware on a road bike despite riding with close to 100 different folks this year. (I have however seen some senior riders with older-than-Sora gen parts.)
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Talewinds- I agree about the fluke and I was with the B+ run which is 12-14 mph for a 34 miler. There was a A and A- group where I'm sure to have seen Red. Although just getting there before groups went their ways..............no SRAM.
B+ run due to girlfriend, I'm far from great but would have been in the A run if alone.
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Anytime I browse new bikes at the LBS, I notice nearly all of them have Shimano components. My guess is, the typical rider buys a complete bike and just leaves well enough alone.

I'd like to see how many of us who build our bikes from scratch go with SRAM, Shimano or Campy. Personally, I only like the feel of SRAM.
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Anytime I browse new bikes at the LBS, I notice nearly all of them have Shimano components. My guess is, the typical rider buys a complete bike and just leaves well enough alone.

I'd like to see how many of us who build our bikes from scratch go with SRAM, Shimano or Campy. Personally, I only like the feel of SRAM.
Shimano just doesn't do it for me. In the past I was always a campy guy, and campy is still my favorite. Unfortunately when I got back into riding I couldn't justify the added expense of campy so I am stuck with SRAM for the time being, at least until I feel like selling and rebuying a bunch of wheelsets. Unfortunately most of my wheels aren't easily converted to campy.
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Talewinds- I agree about the fluke and I was with the B+ run which is 12-14 mph for a 34 miler. There was a A and A- group where I'm sure to have seen Red. Although just getting there before groups went their ways..............no SRAM.
B+ run due to girlfriend, I'm far from great but would have been in the A run if alone.
A B+ ride is 12-14 mph??? I need to move to PA.
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From what I have seen shimano still seems to be a fairly heavy favorite Id say 60/30/10 shimano/SRAM/Campy. Personally I have an mtb with shimano and my cross bike is SRAM. I prefer shimano mtb shifters and FD over SRAM. On the cross I much prefer the SRAM shifters over Shimano but think that the SRAM FD sucks.
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more than 3/4 of the group I ride with use SRAM. But then, most of the guys and gals I ride with have their bikes built up. I prefer SRAM only because you get a much lighter group for a lower price.
Just about every bike store I walk into though carries Shimano built road bikes with about 10% of the bikes having SRAM.
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Originally Posted by punkncat View Post
Pardon me for asking, but what does "the way of Mavic, Huret, Suntour, etc." mean?
Not trying to be a smartass, really don't know.
All are former groupset makers.
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Nothing like making market share assumptions based on a social bicycle group...
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A lot of it has to do with what the LBS is familiar with , a couple LBS here in town don't want to order bikes with sram. They're familiar with shimano and don't want to switch. I've used both and like both, don't really buy a bike for the components.
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Originally Posted by dejansen View Post
Nothing like making market share assumptions based on a social bicycle group...
The guy noticed something peculiar and took his question to a wider sample. What is wrong with that?
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SRAM Red dominates the high end groupset market in my very small neck of the woods. You'll see 3 Red groups for every 1 Dura Ace. I only know one person who rides campy on my team.

Mid range is pretty well split between Shimano and SRAM.

Of my 3 bikes, I have one Red group, one Ultegra group and one 105 group. As the Shimano groups wear out though, I'll probably be making the swap over to all SRAM.
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and here it is mainly SRAM groupsets with a few shimano groupsets. then we have the "dodo bird" campy groupsets.
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Originally Posted by ThinLine View Post
Talewinds- I agree about the fluke and I was with the B+ run which is 12-14 mph for a 34 miler. There was a A and A- group where I'm sure to have seen Red. Although just getting there before groups went their ways..............no SRAM.
B+ run due to girlfriend, I'm far from great but would have been in the A run if alone.
I think you'd be making a mistake by trying to draw a correlation between rider speed and the level of the group set. I know that at my local twilight races, many of the most expensive bikes are often found in the c-pack attached to masters 60+ types, and some fast College students on entry-level Tiagra and 105 bikes are riding in the A pack.
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