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The aerobar syndrome

Old 04-10-12, 09:59 AM
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The aerobar syndrome

I live in flat FL. 60+% of the riders I see around me either have aerobars or have a TT bike. However, it is obvious neither group does TT, triathlons, duathlons, or even know what those are. These bikes also range from the hybrid to the MTB, to the road bike, and the official TT bike. Somehow, I know a lot of them get them because they think it is more comfortable, and from looking at their positions on their bikes I would argue against it. Yet, they all cling to them and think they are ultra cool. Maybe they are all official card carrying members of the Fred Club, but maybe they just have an undiagnosed malady, which for the time being I am calling "Aerobar Syndrome". Have you been tested for it?

Is this a common thing in other parts of the country?
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There is an eight mile stretch of rails-to-trails between two cities here that sees a lot of traffic. Grade ranges from 0 to +/-1% depending on direction of travel. Wind ranges from "woo-hoo-hoo-hoo speeds" to "screw it, walking's faster" depending on the day and direction of travel.

Aerobar Syndrome is practically a Fredly epidemic.
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In my part of CA (Bay Area) I very rarely see aerobars, ever.
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Guys with aerobars scare me. I try and keep far away from them.
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Guys with aerobars scare me. I try and keep far away from them.
There we go.

I'm not prejudice, I even scare me when I'm using them on my tt bike.
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Aero bars seem so passe to me. LBSs still sell those things?
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Was on vacation last week in Longboat Key...noticed the same thing. I think I may have seen 1 or 2 clean road bikes....all the rest, aerobars.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
Guys with aerobars scare me. I try and keep far away from them.
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There we go.

I'm not prejudice, I even scare me when I'm using them on my tt bike.
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Yeah ive seen this syndrome... Its something we most ignore. Hating only breeds ignorance.
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So, by glancing at strangers on their bikes, you are able to determine that:
a) they don't do time trials or triathlons;
b) they don't even know what TTs or tris are;
c) they have the aerobars or TT bikes because they think they are comfortable;
d) the riders are mistaken, about their comfort; and
e) are really using TT bikes or aerobars because they believe they (the riders) are ultra cool.

You should join the carnival.
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Maybe they just understand the laws of physics.
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I don't do tts or tris and I have aero bars on my bike. I don't have them because they are cool, I have them because they serve many purposes. I'm not sure what your problem with it is, nor do I understand how itd somehow automatically be ok if I did do tris and tt's with them. Get over yourself.
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The people I know with aerobars generally have them for long distance riding, for headwinds, for getting weight off their hands. Time trials and triathlons don't enter into it.
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You should join the carnival.
The 41 IS a carnival!
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Originally Posted by jmX View Post
I don't do tts or tris and I have aero bars on my bike. I don't have them because they are cool, I have them because they serve many purposes. I'm not sure what your problem with it is, nor do I understand how itd somehow automatically be ok if I did do tris and tt's with them. Get over yourself.
Lol. Fred.

It's triathlete central down here in North San Diego County, and these freds (they all seem to have Australian, Brazilian or Italian accents) know what they're doing.

I see plenty of dumb moves made by people without aerobars, and by people who give every appearance of not being fredly. IMO, the only reliable determinant of fredliness is the insecurity that leads to pointing out illusory symptoms of fredliness and broad-brushed, erroneous categorizing of freds.
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Originally Posted by vandalarchitect View Post
Brutal.
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Originally Posted by patrickgm60 View Post
So, by glancing at strangers on their bikes, you are able to determine that:
a) they don't do time trials or triathlons;
b) they don't even know what TTs or tris are;
c) they have the aerobars or TT bikes because they think they are comfortable;
d) the riders are mistaken, about their comfort; and
e) are really using TT bikes or aerobars because they believe they (the riders) are ultra cool.

You should join the carnival.
Well, after talking and knowing several local dozens and hearing the same thing over and over, it is obvious there is a pattern. I guess you must be one of the misdiagnosed creatures that it hip a cord so quickly with you LOL........


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Maybe they just understand the laws of physics.
Not when they are only doing 14 mph!!

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The 41 IS a carnival!
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Guys with aerobars scare me. I try and keep far away from them.
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The 41 IS a carnival!
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Not when they are only doing 14 mph!!
http://www.analyticcycling.com/ForcesPower_Page.html

edit: For the lazy, according to my calculations, at 14mph, wind resistance makes up 2/3 of the forces on a cyclist.
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Hmmm....I am new to road bikes and was thinking of getting some aero-bars at some point to give my hands a break here and there and for when the head wind gets out of hand. Did not know that would be a Fred thing to do.
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I see all kinds of bikers go by with "road bars." I bet none of them have ever even considered entering a road race. I bet a lot of them think they are more comfortable but I could easily argue the opposite.

I think they all should just buy Urban Cruisers with the Dorothy (of Wizard of Oz fame) handlebars and just be more comfortable.

Is this common in your area?


This is officially the dumbest thread of the year.
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This is officially the dumbest thread of the year.
Incorrect. It may not be the smartest, but it is far from the dumbest.
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The people I know with aerobars generally have them for long distance riding, for headwinds, for getting weight off their hands. Time trials and triathlons don't enter into it.
I used to think this way too, but then I realized sitting into an elongated road+aerobar position definitely takes the weight off of the hands, but stresses everything else in the upper body. It's a lose-lose. Getting off the bike every 20 or so miles to stretch > aerobars without a forward seatpost.

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Brutal.
Yea, he looked like he regained control. I wonder why he decided to go off road? maybe there was more riders in the paceline behind the camera guy?

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This is officially the dumbest thread of the year.
incorrect.
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Hmmm....I am new to road bikes and was thinking of getting some aero-bars at some point to give my hands a break here and there and for when the head wind gets out of hand. Did not know that would be a Fred thing to do.
Efficient aero positions compromise comfort. Just my 2 cents
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I used to think this way too, but then I realized sitting into an elongated road+aerobar position definitely takes the weight off of the hands, but stresses everything else in the upper body. It's a lose-lose. Getting off the bike every 20 or so miles to stretch > aerobars without a forward seatpost.
For a lot of people it's the ability to have extra hand positions that increases comfort. That's why a decent amount of people who tour use things like trekking bars.

Efficient aero positions compromise comfort.
That is true, but it doesn't really have much to do with aerobars. Aerobars say nothing about body position, all they do is move your arms out of the wind, and they do that no matter how low or high you are.
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I bet Tom Boonen doesn't go around judging random people he sees out riding
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