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A defective fork kills a cyclist. What brand? READ THIS!

Old 04-12-12, 07:59 PM
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A defective fork kills a cyclist. What brand? READ THIS!

From the Boston Herald

Rehoboth cyclist death may be due to bike defect

Does anyone know what brand of bike this is?
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From https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-cyclist-death

https://sunchronicle.com/articles/201...s/11320104.txt
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Originally Posted by Dancing Skeleton View Post
From the Boston Herald

Rehoboth cyclist death may be due to bike defect

Does anyone know what brand of bike this is?
"The type of bicycle the man was riding, a Cervelo, has been part of a national recall because of that problem, police said."
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Which model Cervelo and what fork was the recall on? Horrible accident!
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A fork or front wheel failure is the scariest thing I could think of. This is simply Horrible! I hope this was not Cervelo pushing the limit on Carbon.

A recall is needed if this was a manufacturing defect or a design flaw.
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2008 Cervelo Soloist part of the 2008 fork recall. SAD.

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/news/...tail/6672.html

REHOBOTH, MA (BRAIN) Thursday April 12 2012 11:04 AM MT—Police here say the apparent failure of a recalled Cervelo fork may have contributed to a fatal bike accident Monday.

Rehoboth police said an off-duty patrolman found an injured bicyclist on the road Monday afternoon. The victim was taken to Rhode Island Hospital and pronounced dead shortly after arriving there.

Police later told The Taunton Daily Gazette that the rider was on a Cervelo Soloist and that it appeared a "mechanical failure" involving the fork led to the crash. An investigating officer said the fork was separated from the bike.

In 2008, Cervelo recalled 5,800 forks used on several of its bike models. The forks, designed by Cervelo and manufactured by True Temper in China, were recalled because the steerer tubes could break during normal use.

The Gazette identified the victim as Gary Lanoue, 58, of Attleboro, Massachusetts. Lanoue was a father of three and was training for what would have been his 15th Rhode Island MS150 ride.

Cervelo spokesman Peter Donato said the company has contacted Reboboth police and is waiting to hear back from them with details.

Cervelo planned to post a statement on its website Thursday evening about the situation.

"There has been considerable speculation in the media the last few days about potential causes of this tragic accident," the statemenr reads. "These include the fork, wheel separation, and collision with another vehicle. We have been in contact with the authorities involved in investigating this crash and are awaiting information from them. We do not have any confirmed details at this time that would shed more light on what happened Monday afternoon. It would be inappropriate for us to speculate on the incident, as we are sure everyone appreciates, as there is a police investigation underway to determine the cause of the accident.

"We take our commitment to engineer the best and safest products possible very seriously. At this point we need to respect the process that is underway, and we will support this effort in whatever way possible. Our thoughts continue to be with Mr. Lanoue’s family and friends."
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That's ****ed up...

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So that's Cervelo, Novara Fusion, certain Felt F series, the Giant Defy and Avail Advanced models.

Perhaps we should proceed more cautiously with this carbon fiber...
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So sad.
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I saw a carbon fork snap six or eight years ago on a bumpy descent. The rider was in the hospital and rehab for three months.
You can do what you want, but I won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it
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Isn't this the Wolf fork that was widely recalled and replaced by Cervelo with 3T Fundas? Keep in mind, without knowing the details, the fork or bike may have been previously damaged etc.
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Originally Posted by Velo Dog View Post
I saw a carbon fork snap six or eight years ago on a bumpy descent. The rider was in the hospital and rehab for three months.
You can do what you want, but I won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it
Yeah righto mate... I am sure in the entire history of bicycles there was never a fork failure until carbon was used.

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Check cpsc.gov for bicycle recalls, JMR. Lots of them are for forks, almost all CF.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
Check cpsc.gov for bicycle recalls, JMR. Lots of them are for forks, almost all CF.
That's because almost all racing bicycles made in the past 10 years come with carbon forks.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post
Check cpsc.gov for bicycle recalls, JMR. Lots of them are for forks, almost all CF.
I'm am not saying that CF forks don't fail... just pointing out how ridiculous Velo Dog's comment is that he "won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it" because he saw a guy messed up due to a fork failure.

Forks have been failing long before CF was even invented. And also, how many people do you know that have been messed up in car accidents? Does this mean you won't get in a car??

Riding a bike has hazards, deal with it and move on... or quit riding.

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Originally Posted by Velo Dog View Post
I saw a carbon fork snap six or eight years ago on a bumpy descent. The rider was in the hospital and rehab for three months.
You can do what you want, but I won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it
I was in an accident on my carbon bike and after i unclipped from the bike from the force of the accident the bike flew down the street about 30 feet from where i landed and came out unscathed, can't say the same for myself.
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I was in an accident on my carbon bike and after i unclipped from the bike from the force of the accident the bike flew down the street about 30 feet from where i landed and came out unscathed, can't say the same for myself.
Just blame it on the "pos" carbon forks, that way you dont get the blame. Its always blame the bike, remember that. Truth be told, shouldnt part of the blame be put on the rider too, as its been 4 yrs since said recall? The guy didnt know about it till now? Find that a little hard to believe

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Originally Posted by JMR View Post
I'm am not saying that CF forks don't fail... just pointing out how ridiculous Velo Dog's comment is that he "won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it" because he saw a guy messed up due to a fork failure.

Forks have been failing long before CF was even invented. And also, how many people do you know that have been messed up in car accidents? Does this mean you won't get in a car??

Riding a bike has hazards, deal with it and move on... or quit riding.

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This.
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Anyone know if there is an aluminum fork for the allez?
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Anyone know if there is an aluminum fork for the allez?
Does anyone have an umbrella? The sky is falling..
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Originally Posted by JMR View Post
I'm am not saying that CF forks don't fail... just pointing out how ridiculous Velo Dog's comment is that he "won't even ride next to a carbon bike if I can help it" because he saw a guy messed up due to a fork failure.

Forks have been failing long before CF was even invented. And also, how many people do you know that have been messed up in car accidents? Does this mean you won't get in a car??

Riding a bike has hazards, deal with it and move on... or quit riding.

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No disrespect intended, but this is the most often misused argument when it comes to issues like this. Bikes are used mainly for recreation. Cars are used like telephones and toasters - it makes pretty much anyone's life significantly easier.

Some dude died in a skydiving accident last week. It was a tandem and the instructor survived. Unless I am a Ranger, I'm not jumping out of a plane on purpose because I don't need to.

That being said, both of my bikes feature carbon forks, but they are heavy for carbon forks, and that's how I like it. Some employ the use of carbon for weight weenie issues; I do so to dampen the road.
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Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve View Post
Truth be told, shouldnt part of the blame be put on the rider too, as its been 4 yrs since said recall? The guy didnt know about it till now? Find that a little hard to believe
My thought as well. Cervelo did an extensive recall so it's likely the owner was notified. Even if he wasn't the original owner, it's hard to understand how he wasn't aware. How many high end bike owners don't look at the manufacturers web site, participate in their forums, and chat with other owners?
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Originally Posted by voull View Post
Anyone know if there is an aluminum fork for the allez?
you don't want an aluminum fork...trust me. If you are afraid of carbon forks, go with steel, rather than aluminum.
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Originally Posted by RTDub View Post
Bikes are used mainly for recreation.
Speak for yourself, buddy.
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Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve View Post
Just blame it on the "pos" carbon forks, that way you dont get the blame. Its always blame the bike, remember that. Truth be told, shouldnt part of the blame be put on the rider too, as its been 4 yrs since said recall? The guy didnt know about it till now? Find that a little hard to believe
Good old "Blame the victim" attitude.

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My thought as well. Cervelo did an extensive recall so it's likely the owner was notified. Even if he wasn't the original owner, it's hard to understand how he wasn't aware. How many high end bike owners don't look at the manufacturers web site, participate in their forums, and chat with other owners?
Not everyone is a bike geek. Some people buy a bike and just ride it.
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