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vermilionx 04-28-12 09:59 PM

that was a wasted purchase.
 
easton ea90 0 degree rise stem.

i didn't want a slammed stem. i just wanted a straight stem (and white lolz).

so i got that 0 degree rise stem thinking it was gonna be straight. been riding it for a while but didn't notice how much it actually was still pointing up till i posted that fit pic critique of myself and several people told me to flip it, which would be pointless for a 0 degree rise stem.

so i put back my old stem and flipped it to just try how i feel on it.

turns out... flipping it actually gives that straight stem look that i wanted. >_<

im gonna try and return it. performance has a really good satisfaction guarantee. hey honored it for me a few times already. i once returned a set of tires after having used it already for 80 miles (1 week after buying it) since i felt it had too much rolling resistance. i could use that 30$ store credit.

next time, im gonna ask the 41 1st before i purchase something. good thing this one wasn't very expensive and i won't feel too bad if performance doesn't wanna give me store credit for it.

Right Said Fred 04-28-12 10:08 PM

Yeah, you should have asked. That was the hard way to learn that the degrees of rise on a stem are in relation to the stem clamp, not the angle of the frame's head tube.

znomit 04-28-12 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by vermilionx (Post 14157234)
been riding it for a while but didn't notice how much it actually was still pointing up till i posted that fit pic critique of myself and several people told me to flip it,

The road to bike happiness doesn't go past the 41

vermilionx 04-28-12 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by znomit (Post 14157278)
The road to bike happiness doesn't go past the 41

lol

definitely looks better and i believe it fits me better as well since this increases the distance i have to reach by a little bit.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...6&d=1335675341

sqroot3 04-29-12 12:21 AM

hahaha
yay performance bike

ahsposo 04-29-12 08:13 AM

I never, ever make any kind of decision without consulting the wisdom of the 41.

The Best and the Brightest are all right here!

valygrl 04-29-12 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Right Said Fred (Post 14157243)
Yeah, you should have asked. That was the hard way to learn that the degrees of rise on a stem are in relation to the stem clamp, not the angle of the frame's head tube.

uh.....

fstshrk 04-29-12 09:02 AM

On my Roubaix SL2, I need to use a 17 degree stem in the flipped position to get the stem flat.

X-LinkedRider 04-29-12 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by valygrl (Post 14157951)
uh.....

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.

datlas 04-29-12 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 14157881)
I never, ever make any kind of decision without consulting the wisdom of the 41.

The Best and the Brightest are all right here!

Where??

X-LinkedRider 04-29-12 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by ahsposo (Post 14157881)
I never, ever make any kind of decision without consulting the wisdom of the 41.

The Best and the Brightest are all right here!

Well, they'll at least tell you which one is shiner and lighter and makes you go faster. Lol. But the 41 is a very reliable group in regards to feedback, Weed out weird suckers that always seem to have a problem with everything and listen to the people with realistic and thought out advice. Not somebody telling you, how to make your bike LOOK better.

mpath 04-29-12 09:42 AM

I never think it's truly a waste if I learned something from it, and the OP did. Consider the $ as the price of learning, and if you can get a refund/credit, bonus!

bobonker 04-29-12 12:20 PM

I have a pair of EA90 0 deg stems and really like them. They are a good compromise for people with poor flexibility and/or bad backs.

Bob

milkbaby 04-29-12 12:22 PM

Try a bubble level on your current setup, and I bet your current configuration is not a level stem. You would need a 17 degree stem to have a level stem and only if your frame's head tube angle is 73 degrees...

dmcdam 04-29-12 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by mpath (Post 14158095)
I never think it's truly a waste if I learned something from it, and the OP did. Consider the $ as the price of learning, and if you can get a refund/credit, bonus!

All things considered, it's probably one of the cheaper lessons out there. Hey, it's not like he got married or something...:innocent:

vermilionx 04-29-12 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by milkbaby (Post 14158485)
Try a bubble level on your current setup, and I bet your current configuration is not a level stem. You would need a 17 degree stem to have a level stem and only if your frame's head tube angle is 73 degrees...

im sure you're right, but it looks straight enough for me right now.

mpath 04-29-12 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by milkbaby (Post 14158485)
Try a bubble level on your current setup, and I bet your current configuration is not a level stem. You would need a 17 degree stem to have a level stem and only if your frame's head tube angle is 73 degrees...

Wow, somebody took geometry! Lemesee....17+73= um, 90. Oh Cool! But as soon as you hit a hill, there goes the level stem....
That aside, what's the chance that the OP's HT angle is 73 degrees?

Right Said Fred 04-29-12 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by valygrl (Post 14157951)
uh.....

Uh, what? The marked number of degrees of rise or drop on a stem are in relation to a vertical centerline through the steerer tube clamp. It is not in relation to the head tube angle on your particular bike, because that varies from frame to frame. How could a manufacturer sell you a 17 degree stem without knowing what your particular headtube angle was, if that was what the measurement referred to?


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