Hard time getting weight off hands and signaling.
So I've been cycling for a few months now and I'm building up strength around the torso area but I'm still having trouble getting weight off my hands so I can signal. I've tilted the saddle a bit upwards which helped but I still put too much of my upper body weight on the bars.
Advice? Any drills I can practice to help with this issue... |
Practice riding with no hands, like for a couple of miles, even around corners.
Lots of twisting crunches. I do a couple hundred a night. |
You can also try flipping the stem to a positive rise if you havent or go to a higher degree stem angle if your using a +-6 or similar.
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It'd be interesting to see a picture of you on your bike. I have essentially no "torso strength" but have never had any trouble taking my hands off the bars.
When I taught skills classes to introductory track riders, the most basic drills incorporated removing a hand from the bars. I never encountered anyone who had trouble with that part, so barely know what to suggest to you. I suspect you may have fallen for the modern nonsense of angling your saddle toward the handlebars, which will give anyone a hard time. |
Are you otherwise comfortable on the bike? Maybe too much reach?
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You may need a bike fit. You don't need superhuman core strength to lift your hands off the bars.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 14169256)
Practice riding with no hands, like for a couple of miles, even around corners.
Lots of twisting crunches. I do a couple hundred a night.
Originally Posted by Mike F
(Post 14169257)
You can also try flipping the stem to a positive rise if you havent or go to a higher degree stem angle if your using a +-6 or similar.
Originally Posted by Six jours
(Post 14169268)
It'd be interesting to see a picture of you on your bike. I have essentially no "torso strength" but have never had any trouble taking my hands off the bars.
When I taught skills classes to introductory track riders, the most basic drills incorporated removing a hand from the bars. I never encountered anyone who had trouble with that part, so barely know what to suggest to you. I suspect you may have fallen for the modern nonsense of angling your saddle toward the handlebars, which will give anyone a hard time. I feel most comfortable being as parallel to the ground as possible. If I tilt the saddle up a bit and bend over I feel like I'm being castrated. It's just when I take my left arm off the bars I lose control.
Originally Posted by chasm54
(Post 14169277)
Are you otherwise comfortable on the bike? Maybe too much reach?
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bike pics needed for sure. bike alone and bike with rider
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If I get my butt on the saddle and bend at my lower back I am a bit more stable but it causes slight discomfort.
If I keep my back straight it feels fine I'm just slight weight on the bars which causes me to lose control with 1 arm. |
I can't ride my road bike with no hands when my torso is in normal position (hoods or drops). I have to sit up very straight, just like a kid on a bmx bike.
Not sure what that has to do with this thread, no offense to Lester. :lol: I am guessing it is the bend in your back. Arch your back the other way when you need to signal. |
Originally Posted by gregf83
(Post 14169317)
You may need a bike fit. You don't need superhuman core strength to lift your hands off the bars.
But a strong core helps with comfort on the bicycle. |
Originally Posted by ColinL
(Post 14169362)
I can't ride my road bike with no hands when my torso is in normal position (hoods or drops). I have to sit up very straight, just like a kid on a bmx bike.
Not sure what that has to do with this thread, no offense to Lester. :lol: |
have to say pushups might be in order. you should signal right turns with your right arm anyway. the classic left arm "L" signal is for auto drivers. your arm doesn't have to stay up for more than a few seconds to inform those behind what you're up to, if no one is behind you don't have to signal at all. try raising one hand off the bar as you travel, then the other for practice.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 14169383)
Many say you know your saddle position is correct when you can ride for a while with your hands off the bars, in midair just above your hoods. Maybe not a couple of miles. I figured that couple mile no hands ride part might help the OP learn that hands on bars is not really all that important?
sitting upright, the weight is where it needs to be, on the sitbones. could ride like that with no hands for however long, but it doesn't serve me other than to open and consume food. |
This sounds a lot more to do with balance and coordination than core strength. OP, do you have trouble switching hand positions (tops to hoods to drops) or taking a drink from a bottle while riding? I can't imagine that you'd be comfortable with those things either if you have a tough time signaling.
One tip to try is to leave your remaining hand closer to the stem - that way if you have a tendency to pull on the bars with your non-signalling hand it won't exaggerate the movement as much as if you're holding onto one of the hoods. |
Originally Posted by todayilearned
(Post 14169321)
I feel most comfortable being as parallel to the ground as possible. If I tilt the saddle up a bit and bend over I feel like I'm being castrated. It's just when I take my left arm off the bars I lose control.
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Good that the OP raised this topic. I also have trouble in riding with my left hand off the handle(I am a left-hander) , but I can ride with right hand off the handle. I am having trouble in signalling left :-(.
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I think the OP has to start posting a picture of his bike. Or the bike is fit wrong or his handling skills suck (that the guy is athletic doesn't mean he can handle a bike).... there must be other reasons but w/o seeing at the bike is hard to know.
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Originally Posted by todayilearned
(Post 14169321)
Not sure if serious?
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Originally Posted by san2411
(Post 14169510)
Good that the OP raised this topic. I also have trouble in riding with my left hand off the handle(I am a left-hander) , but I can ride with right hand off the handle. I am having trouble in signalling left :-(.
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you guys having trouble lifting your hands seem to either have weak backs, torso muscles or are leaning to damn hard on your bars...you should be able to sit back a bit and lift your hands with no problems.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 14169557)
Totally serious. I can get 100-120 twisting crunches in one commercial break during the news or Jeopardy. Two sets of those and I'm golden. Probably won't help with your problem specifically but it really helps me do rides of 2 hours +.
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Originally Posted by todayilearned
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