Originally Posted by SSP

11-23. I ride where it's pretty hilly (I logged 202,000 feet of climbing in 4000 miles last year), so I wasn't comfortable going with just the 21.

Originally Posted by townandcountry

Finally, someone got it right about Beloki's crash. Now for my two cents worth...
Laggard - cycling hard is not about suffering. Galen - Not every cyclist is or was a racer. Get over it. For both of you elitists, use your doubles. Use them well. You won't hear a peep from me. But leave the rest of us alone that use triples. Enough already. "Chacon a son gout" - to each his own taste.

Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway

Actually I think Galen would be a lot of fun to ride with.

Originally Posted by TripleCrank

How fun can climbing overpasses in Maryland really be?

Originally Posted by paul31606

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Side note: for those that rides hills alot do you count the mileage up and down the hills or just up since you coast most of the way down a big hill?

Originally Posted by krispistoferson

I hate to respond to such an obvious troll by such an obvious P.O.S. , but that's some deep ****, right there. The only people who truly need the ultralight bikes are professionals to give them an extra edge. People who aren't willing to lighten their bike with generous infusions of money shouldn't be looked down upon and insulted, just seen as pragmatic. I'm happy that you have the money for a light bike, but the people who really need light bikes get them from their sponsors, so I think you're probably just an elitist.
As for marketing hype being defined by consumer need, well, I'm happy you live in that world, must be a cool place. Coca Cola is a great example of a company that spends a great deal to manufacture a percieved need for their product. Where would human civilization be without brown sugar water?
Anyway, maybe the next time you put your 15 pound bike on top of your car, so you can drive 50 miles and ride 10, you'll get thirsty on the way and stop for a Coke and a Big Mac on the way. I'm sure one of the "Financially Challenged" would be happy to take your order.
I hope that one day, if I'm financially capable of owning a CF bike, I'll wake up in the morning and thank God for how blessed I am, instead of pissed off at all the jealous poor. Congratulations on being so crass, Divekrb!

Originally Posted by paul31606

Side note: for those that rides hills alot do you count the mileage up and down the hills or just up since you coast most of the way down a big hill?

Originally Posted by paul31606

you missed my point on having a triple... this ride is the only time i use my triple w/12-21 rear cassette (for 53-11 the closer gearing made riding so much nicer w/o the big gaps of the 12-26 that came w/the bike) but, why torture yourself on a double if you can finish the ride quicker and stronger on a triple.

Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway

I hear ya.....I just need to do some more research. I think the tape has revolutionized the tubie market. If you need 10 minutes with a damn heatgun to complete claen off a rim with the exytreme tape...then I think it is pretty safe.

Maybe it was a bad gluing job.....

P.S. I liked your other avatar

Originally Posted by divekrb

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Myth: Joseba Beloki crashed in 2003 when his tubular tire rolled off the rim

Used By: Clincher fundamentalists, Glue sniffers who want it all to themselves

Truth: Joseba locked the back wheel, got into a big slide, did a tank slapper and got highsided. The tire never left the rim even though the wheel bent. If it had come off, he would have simply slid out, aluminum and carbon giving rather poor traction. Verified by pictures of the bike and video of the crash. The announcers got it wrong.

Additional Facts: Tubulars are they the choice of the majority of pro teams, especially in brutal (on tire) races like Paris Roubaix.

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Originally Posted by galen_52657

At least we don't have fenders on our racing bikes and ride with rubber booties all year....

Originally Posted by divekrb

I did two big rides last year where I was smoking along up steep grades at 10-12 MPH on my double...sweat pouring, heart rate soaring, the whole bit. On both rides I got passed (and eventually dropped) by a freaking tandem. A tandem for chrissakes! It's like those kids who used to do "extra credit" assignments in school...

Originally Posted by divekrb

Do you type to your Mom with those fingers?

My guess is you were actually quite gleeful at the prospect, because it gave you a break from reading the Revolutionary Worker so you could rant against multinational corporations.

As you obviously have an Internet connection, I would Google the phrase "Tongue in Cheek", and work on your reading comprehension before you retake the SAT's.

Direct that anger inward my little friend. It's really mostly your fault.

Originally Posted by HunterBee

An interesting trivia about Yugo. They are the only car company ever to be put out of business because the factory was bombed during a war.

Originally Posted by divekrb

Guilty about having a computer when there's people out there who don't have clean drinking water, aren't you?

I only point and laugh at the homeless when they dress funny, which is most of the time. Plaid and stripes together? Puleeeze. Otherwise I respond to their "spare change" solicitations with "Oh...you mean money I wasn't planning on using? Nope." Then I'll make them do funny dance for a twenty. I think it boosts their self esteem to know they earned that money, rather than have someone just give it to them out of pity. It makes the crack or bottle of cheap wine much more satisfying.




Did you look up "tongue in cheek" yet ? Methinks not. I know it's hard to stay focused in a dorm after a few bong hits. Keep working on that reading comprehension.