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New Tire suggestions for an old racer? Too many choices.

Old 05-16-12, 09:51 AM
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New Tire suggestions for an old racer? Too many choices.

Im building a new set of wheels (Mavic MR601s, Velocity Fusion, Sapim) and I need to get them shod.
Id like to find some fast training tires that wont break the bank. Ive been looking around and there are a LOT of tire makers out there and you can find any review you want for any tire so some of the reviews sites are worthless. I need suggestions.

Here are my likes:

Slick: I live in AZ and you never have to train in wet conditions unless you want to. Ive always liked slick tires and feel more rubber on the ground is good.
Folding if possible (a big plus but not required)
High(er) TPI
700 x 23c good, 25c better
Tubed
No hipster colors (black wall preferred, but not required)

Im an old racer who always rode either sew ups or something like the old Avocet folding slicks.

Ive seen a bunch of tires on sale for <$25 ea and would at least like to stay in that range if al all possible.

and please dont say Pasela. Please. Im asking nicely. Dont make me stop the car.
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Old 05-16-12, 09:55 AM
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GP4000, and forget it. Buy them from the UK and you'll get close-ish to your target price. Last year I bought a small "handful" at $37 each, with shipping included. (They're $75 a pop at LBS.)
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Agree with the above, hard to beat the Conti's at any price range. I believe they are the top ranked, and top purchased tire at the shop I work in. We carry other, but are rethinking that decision fast. If you are "stuck" on slicks, Conti makes a "Tri" tire that is just like the GP, but smooth.
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Conti 4000s are what I ride. There was/is a guy on ebay in Florida who was selling them for like $90 a pair shipped. I know that is over your stated budget, but they are normally 65-75 each retail.
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GP4000S, 700x25, from Ribble
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How much/How long is shipping from the UK to the US (specifically the Midwest, if anyone has experience)?
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Much as I'd love the GS4000s, I can't afford to have tires that cost 2/3 the price of the wheel they're mounted on. Can anyone suggest something closer to my original price range? I'm not looking for "best", I'm looking for good enough.
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If you want durable and cheap, Maxxis Refuse are good, but not great.

Also, if you shop around, you can find Michelin Pro 3 races on clearance for about $30.
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Originally Posted by Lewis_Moon View Post
Much as I'd love the GS4000s, I can't afford to have tires that cost 2/3 the price of the wheel they're mounted on. Can anyone suggest something closer to my original price range? I'm not looking for "best", I'm looking for good enough.
How much are you willing to pay per mile or km? There's a huge variation in how long tires will last. I can get 4000 miles easily out of a pair of GP4000S. I'd much rather have them than a tire that lasts 1/3 as long for 1/3 the price.
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Originally Posted by svtmike View Post
How much are you willing to pay per mile or km? There's a huge variation in how long tires will last. I can get 4000 miles easily out of a pair of GP4000S. I'd much rather have them than a tire that lasts 1/3 as long for 1/3 the price.
I get it. Any suggestions for a cheaper set to bridge to the time I can spend that type of dough? Unless I skip a car payment I'm not seeing that type of money unless I save for a while.
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Maybe the Vittoria Rubino Pro Slick? With the wire bead and 60tpi casing it's easily found in the $25 range.
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You were prepared to spend $50+ shipping when you started this thread. Somehow, $50 isn't going to cause you to skip a car payment but $80 + shipping is?

Maybe you should just hit up the local bike shop and ask them what you can buy for $25. Because if a $38 tire costs 2/3 of what the wheel is worth, maybe a high end road tire just isn't for you.

Guys on this forum (not me) have wheels that cost $1000 each. A $38 expendable tire is a drop in the bucket.

I can say though, that if you're new, you'll probably notice more of a difference in cornering grip and ride quality from a $38 tire than a new $1000 wheel.

If a decent set of tires isn't worth it to you, save your money on the shipping and buy local.

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How much/How long is shipping from the UK to the US (specifically the Midwest, if anyone has experience)?
3-5 days most likely. If you order them on a Monday, you'll probably have them the same week, maybe as late as Saturday or as early as Thursday.

If anything I'd like to know how to skip the 2.5% currency conversion fee. The shipping time and cost is the same as ordering them from the states.
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Originally Posted by svtmike View Post
Maybe the Vittoria Rubino Pro Slick? With the wire bead and 60tpi casing it's easily found in the $25 range.
Data I can use. I'll throw that into the search parameters. Thanks.
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I'd look for Michelin Krylion Carbons on close out for $30. Price per mile I don't think they can be beat for something in the weight range of a race tire. And as long as you stay on dry pavement the grip is not bad at all. They were replaced by the new Pro Race 4 Endurance, but they tent to be +$40.
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Originally Posted by Lewis_Moon View Post
Much as I'd love the GS4000s, I can't afford to have tires that cost 2/3 the price of the wheel they're mounted on. Can anyone suggest something closer to my original price range? I'm not looking for "best", I'm looking for good enough.
I suggest paying less for the GPs. I paid $37 each for mine (including shipping, and there was no tax) which isn't a huge stretch from your $25 per tire budget.

Otherwise, I recommend staying away from Gatorskins.
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I suggest paying less for the GPs. I paid $37 each for mine (including shipping, and there was no tax) which isn't a huge stretch from your $25 per tire budget.

Otherwise, I recommend staying away from Gatorskins.

I meant GPs. My mistake.
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i can't think of anything readily available at less than 30 bucks a tire, but i buy a lot of out-of-date/recalled and seconds. these have never failed me, but apparently have failed others . can usually get a pair for less than 50.

sometimes i see them in very unattractive colors (for me), like pink, but, like the OP, i won't go there.
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Serfas Seca, wire bead. Has great puncture protection, too! I used to run them in 28c on my hybrid and they can take a huge beating! They corner well, too. Can be had for $25 apiece on amazon. The folding bead versions run about $40 apiece.
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Originally Posted by Lewis_Moon View Post
Data I can use. I'll throw that into the search parameters. Thanks.
The Rubino Pro Slick II tires are 150tpi and are on sale at Competitive Cyclist for $25 each at the moment.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...ID=11410&MODE=
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