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Bike on order - what upgrade

Old 05-21-12, 03:28 PM
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I'd say ride the bike as is, spend your money on a nice garmin edge 500 or save up for some wheels. You can upgrade every single item on that bike for an improved item (whether you notice the actual improvement or not).

Another strategy is to ride as is for say, 3-5 years and then upgrade to 11-spd groups when they trickle down into your price range.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I've always wanted to ride from Mono Lake up to Tioga Pass, and down to Toulmne Meadows. Here's a picture of the road, to tempt you.

A lot of people are very eager to upgrade the bike they've just bought/ordered. There have been too many threads about "What should I buy next?" to count. I think a lot of the questions people are asking about that in your thread aren't really directed at you.
I LOVE that area of the country. I go fishing at Virginia Lakes and twin lakes out of Bridgeport. Nothing better than trolling on my kayak at dawn. That would be beautiful country to ride in....once I can handle the mountains.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
I'd say ride the bike as is, spend your money on a nice garmin edge 500 or save up for some wheels. You can upgrade every single item on that bike for an improved item (whether you notice the actual improvement or not).

Another strategy is to ride as is for say, 3-5 years and then upgrade to 11-spd groups when they trickle down into your price range.
You're just saying all this to keep the bike weight as high as you can so when we go climb GMR with Beanz, you can drop me that much faster!
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Crank, if you shift the front. Never had luck getting smooth front shifting with lower end FSA cranks
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
You're just saying all this to keep the bike weight as high as you can so when we go climb GMR with Beanz, you can drop me that much faster!
Just trying to keep your sack full of excuses full!

Heck, you can upgrade all day long - why didn't you get ultegra in the first place? You have to make some economic concessions somewhere. You can do a full-on ultegra upgrade (8 pc group) for just about $1000 which is why I suggested waiting 3 years and getting it when it's 11 spd.

Or buy used stuff on line - you should be able to find brakes all over. Typically when some new shiny group comes out, everybody in the 41 dumps their lightly used "old" stuff for the new group. Grab it then.

When are you getting your bike? Early June? Late June?
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I say enjoy it as-is.

I like Seattle Forrest's idea of using the money for a nice hotel stay in a cool area.
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Old 05-21-12, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Just trying to keep your sack full of excuses full!

Heck, you can upgrade all day long - why didn't you get ultegra in the first place? You have to make some economic concessions somewhere. You can do a full-on ultegra upgrade (8 pc group) for just about $1000 which is why I suggested waiting 3 years and getting it when it's 11 spd.

Or buy used stuff on line - you should be able to find brakes all over. Typically when some new shiny group comes out, everybody in the 41 dumps their lightly used "old" stuff for the new group. Grab it then.

When are you getting your bike? Early June? Late June?
I'm not sure what the budget will be. I may not be able to swing anything, at which point I'll still be ecstatic with what I've ordered. Used is an option if that is what works out, at which point I would do Ultegra.

It's still looking like mid-June, which is working out really well. I think I've strained a muscle or have a pinched nerve in my back. It's not terrible, but it's uncomfortable. I actually called my oncologist last week because at this point in life, when something hurts, you can't help but to worry....or at least wonder. Explained it all in detail and he doesn't think it's his department, which is really good news. He asked if I've taken it easy to let it heal. I said, yes, I didn't ride for two days last week. He said two weeks, no exercise. So, I'm glad the Lynskey isn't here yet. It would be really tough (impossible) to have it calling my name and not ride it. Not riding the old crappy rockhopper is actually pretty easy!

I think right now Lynskey is building the new R210, which is the upgraded Cooper from what I can tell. Should be an interesting bike.

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Old 05-22-12, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
Assuming you have 5700 levers, get 5700 brakes. The new levers have a different cable pull than historic calipers, and will have a "squishy" feeling, no matter what pads you install. Leave everything else alone.
Would 6700 brakes work well with the 5700 levers or would you suggest staying with 5700 brakes? Should I decide to do the brakes, I think it will be at a later time. They're the cheapest and easiest of everything and they'd come from ebay probably.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
I think in this case, it's because the bike hasn't been built up yet.
Understood, but would this really be an upgrade if the bike has not been built up yet?
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
Would 6700 brakes work well with the 5700 levers or would you suggest staying with 5700 brakes? Should I decide to do the brakes, I think it will be at a later time. They're the cheapest and easiest of everything and they'd come from ebay probably.
I know the 5700, 6700, and 7900 stuff all went to the longer cable pull, and should all be interchangeable. I do not know where 4600 Tiagra fits in now that it is 10 speed (not that that was your question ).
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Well, if it's any help in your future budgeting / planning process, you can buy a whole Ultegra upgrade kit (brakes, levers, both DRs, crank, chain, cassette) for about $1,000.

You can buy just the shifty bits (shifters, both DRs, cassette, chain... so no crank nor brakes) for about $650.

I think that's reasonably reasonable so if you wanted to improve the specs on something now and keep it through your next upgrade cycle, the fork isn't something that people routinely change out unless it's damaged, or if you did the brakes & crank, they could live on through your next group upgrade too (in all likelihood)

Personally, I tend to get a group, put it on my existing bike. then get a frame, move the group to the new frame. Later, get a new group... seems like every 3-4 years or so I'm explaining to my wife why I need all this stuff. It also keeps the overall sticker shock down to a more manageable range.
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Old 05-22-12, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Well, if it's any help in your future budgeting / planning process, you can buy a whole Ultegra upgrade kit (brakes, levers, both DRs, crank, chain, cassette) for about $1,000.
This sounds like a good plan. Wear out what I get then upgrade when I need to. I'm still struggling with the fork. I may just go ahead and "re-spec" that (I don't want to call it an upgrade!) to the ENVE.

Ultegra kit at Ribble $814.

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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
This sounds like a good plan. Wear out what I get then upgrade when I need to. I'm still struggling with the fork. I may just go ahead and "re-spec" that (I don't want to call it an upgrade!) to the ENVE.
Another guy on here is doing a build thread on a frame like yours and is using an Enve fork. I don't know about performance but it sure does look good.
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Old 05-22-12, 01:26 PM
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And it would shave 180 grams off!

Great, I don't even have the bike and I'm turning into a weight weenie! MAKE IT STOP!

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I haven't had all the parts you listed - so can't comment on them. My first priority would be the brakes, but I have Enve's on both my Lynskeys and it is a sweet piece of equipment!
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Originally Posted by PhotoJoe
This sounds like a good plan. Wear out what I get then upgrade when I need to. I'm still struggling with the fork. I may just go ahead and "re-spec" that (I don't want to call it an upgrade!) to the ENVE.

Ultegra kit at Ribble $814.
What are you waiting for then?
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My bag of excuses is big...and overflowing.
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Well, got another bill in the mail last night that we weren't expecting so no "re-spec'ing" for me. Oh well. I'm not heartbroken. I'll be perfectly happy with the bike exactly as it's coming, and, I can make upgrades as things wear out. Thanks to everyone who offered opinions and food for thought. I appreciate it.
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