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Cannondale CAAD10 3 or Synapse 4 rival? Please help!

Old 05-22-12, 10:44 PM
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Cannondale CAAD10 3 or Synapse 4 rival? Please help!

Ok, I am new to biking. A couple months ago i bought a specialized crosstrail and now i have been bitten by the road bike bug. Im pretty dead set on getting a cannondale but i dont know which one to get? CAAD10 vs Synapse? I guess what i really should say is alloy fame vs carbon frame. I know the differnce in the ride wil be quite different on a carbon frame, but is it really THAT different? Also, are carbon frames as durable? I heard the life of a carbon frame isnt that long lasting. I want a frame i can keep for a long time. The type of riding i want to do is long rides in the country and train for my first century ride. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Old 05-22-12, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas Cyclist View Post
...CAAD10 vs Synapse? I guess what i really should say is alloy fame vs carbon frame. I know the differnce in the ride wil be quite different on a carbon frame, but is it really THAT different?
You need to test ride both and judge for yourself.

Also, are carbon frames as durable?
Yes.

I heard the life of a carbon frame isnt that long lasting. I want a frame i can keep for a long time...
What you heard was FUD. Carbon frames can last a long time. So can steel, aluminum and titanium frames. They all can break too under the right circumstances.
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You're confusing yourself - you're comparing a race geo bike with an AL frame vs a uh, more relaxed geo bike with a carbon frame. Both bike geos are available in both frame materials.

I really suggest lining up a test ride of at least an hour and a half each to help you decide. A carbon frame is more likely to provide the kind of ride you're looking for though. Buy new and you get a manufacturer warranty vs defects.
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Old 05-23-12, 02:22 AM
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I have the Synapse Carbon Ultegra and it has a very smooth ride compared to my aluminum road bike. The CF plus frame design really help. I recommend you test ride the CAAD, the carbon Synapse and an aluminum Synapse. Since tire pressure can make a big difference in road feel (I probably like PSI on the higher end of average) so make sure the tire pressures are the same for all your test rides.
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Old 05-23-12, 09:28 PM
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My wife has the 2012 Synapse Carbon 4 Rival (WSD) and she is very happy with it. She says the ride is the ideal blend between performance vs. comfort.
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I'd go with the Synapse, based on what your goals are. I came <Maxwell Smart> this close </Maxwell Smart> to buying a Synapse Carbon 3 last year, and would've been happy with it. Check out the aluminum version of the Synapse as well as the carbon; I haven't ridden one, but I've read that the ride is excellent.
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Originally Posted by Dallas Cyclist View Post
The type of riding i want to do is long rides in the country and train for my first century ride
Synapse would be the one.

CAAD10s have a more aggressive geometry, putting you lower (which wouldn't be fun for centuries, depending on your perspective).
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Old 05-24-12, 12:39 PM
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As others have mentioned, there are two things to consider here:
1. Carbon vs. Aluminum
2. Relaxed vs. Aggressive Geometry

1. Carbon and Aluminum are both strong and light. Unless you crash or damage the frame both should last a very long time, and assuming you're purchasing the bike brand new, so long as it's not a crash, if you do encounter problems with the frame, Cannondale has a lifetime warranty. Carbon has been used for quite some time in road frames, and it shouldn't last any longer/shorter than other materials (they're building commercial airplanes out of the stuff, it HAS to last a long time). The main difference is that it's generally easier to repair aluminum compared to carbon, but it's unlikely you'll run into that scenario.

As for weight, many people assume carbon is lighter, but a mediocre carbon frame can be heavier than a very good aluminum frame and vice-versa. I previously owned a Cannondale CAAD9 and it was lighter than several carbon frames in the same size. The CAAD bikes are regarded as some of the best aluminum bikes out there and have a loyal following.

2. The geometry will affect your position on the bike. The CAAD10 has very similar (if not identical) geometry to the SuperSix. One is carbon the other aluminum, but both are dedicated race bikes with a short head-tube and usually will put you in an aerodynamic position. If you're flexible (you can touch your toes easily) then this may not be a problem even for long rides. If you're less flexible, then you may want something with more "relaxed" geometry which the Synapse offers. You'll notice that for a given size, the Synapse has a taller head-tube which generally puts you in a more upright position, which may or may not be what you're looking for. I haven't checked, but I believe the Synapse might be available in both Carbon and Aluminum (at least it was in the past).

So really I think you have two things to address, the material, and the geometry. Your budget may have some impact on the material choice as the carbon frames will likely be priced higher than their aluminum counterparts with everything else being equal.

The way the bike rides/feels will be a combination of the material and geometry of the bike. Without knowing your body proportions or fitness/flexibility level, it would be difficult to recommend one over the other. Since you're username is "Dallas Cyclist" i'm going to assume you're located in the DFW area There are several great Cannondale dealers here (Bicycles Plus and Plano Cycling, I believe Plano Cycling is one of the larger dealers). Try riding all of the bikes you're interested in and then decide. I'd go to two shops if you can, just to see what size they both recommend etc.
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Old 05-27-12, 09:20 PM
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Intence. Thank you so much. That was An awesome answer and it has really put me in the right directiom now. I guess when it boils down to it, i am really looking for a more relaxed, comfortable frame that i can do long distances on... But i want the frame to be a lifetime frame. By lifetime i mean a frame i can keep for a very very long time and that i can replace components on as needed or as i see fit. It doesnt need to be cannondale, this was just my starting point and the synapse seems to be everything im looking for.
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Old 05-27-12, 09:23 PM
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Ride both and see which one you prefer?
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I would vote for the synapse rival. I ride a CAAD10 rival and love it. The main reason I say synapse is because you would get it with rival rather than ultegra. In my book, Sram beats shimano out of the water. I love the shifting, the weight, and the price. If you said CAAD10 4 (rival) I would say you should test ride both for comfortable. The CAAD10 is very very stiff and I race on it, but if you can afford to race the synapse, which means if you crash it, you can replace it immediately (I can't on a high schooler's budget) I would be interested in that. CANNONDALE
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I think you should be comparing the Supersix Rival and the Synapse Rival. The bikes are similarly priced and the difference would be in the geomerty of the bike and not the frame materials.
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