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How about no more whining about flat tires?

Old 05-30-12, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
I haven't had a flat in a really long time. I've been riding a lot and going over a bunch of rough roads, with cheap tires, too... What am I doing right??? Is it luck or pure coincidence??? Should I buy even cheaper tires or maybe just flat on purpose with a needle?

Please help. I am confused.
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Old 05-30-12, 11:01 AM
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Having a flat with an Armadillo tire is an unforgettable experience. Those puppies are stiffer and harder to get on/off the wheel than anything I've ever used. Bummer.
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Old 05-30-12, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
I haven't had a flat in a really long time. I've been riding a lot and going over a bunch of rough roads, with cheap tires, too... What am I doing right??? Is it luck or pure coincidence??? Should I buy even cheaper tires or maybe just flat on purpose with a needle?
Rough roads aren't what causes most flats, it's sharp objects.

I imagine that rough roads might actually prevent some kinds of flats as tiny shards of glass and wire could fall in cracks or the texture where they'd be less of a threat. In any case, if your rough roads are less traveled and have less debris on them, that's a huge factor. Of course luck is always part of the equation.

Originally Posted by SwampDude View Post
Having a flat with an Armadillo tire is an unforgettable experience. Those puppies are stiffer and harder to get on/off the wheel than anything I've ever used. Bummer.
Pulling tiny bits of wire from steel belted radials is harder than with other tires. The Schwalbe Marathon Plus is significantly harder to remove/mount than 'dillos.
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Old 05-30-12, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
Then I checked inside the tire and found the worlds smallest metal shard. How it got in there I have no idea but it was that few mm of metal that caused it. Its amazing what can cause a flat tire.
piece of wire from a truck tire
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Old 05-30-12, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
Ditto. I've put over 20K miles on the Armadillos and MPs, and over 10K on the Contis. The Armadillos and Contis flat plenty easy, and I was still getting about 3 flats/yr on the MP which is by far the most flat resistant of those tires.

It's all on the roads you ride. My commuting roads destroy tires. But there are good recreational roads right by that you can ride practically trouble free on race tires.
But you're not using TR tubes. Admit it.

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Old 05-30-12, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RTDub View Post
I triple-dog dare you to roll in my 'hood. You can brag about your flat-free life, but until you ride a mile on my roads, statements like these are what are pointless.

Purchasing what amounts to the harsh ride of a wagon wheel to prevent my flats is not the solution. I am not sure there is one, aside from showing up at public council meetings only to be laughed at by those with more important issues. At this point my solution is to ride tire-friendly routes.

I carry four tubes and a patch kit as well as a six pack of Skabs.
I've been riding your dare for years, in junkyards and heavy industrial areas. Also rode for years in the Tri-Cities, Washington State, capitol of goat-weed where you'll take hundreds of hits per ride -- never flatted once except when goat weed hits way high on the sidewall.
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Old 05-30-12, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakonchik View Post
I've been riding your dare for years, in junkyards and heavy industrial areas. Also rode for years in the Tri-Cities, Washington State, capitol of goat-weed where you'll take hundreds of hits per ride -- never flatted once except when goat weed hits way high on the sidewall.
You have not ridden here.

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Old 05-30-12, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakonchik View Post
But you're not using TR tubes. Admit it.
Correct. But if something's gone through hard rubber, kevlar, blue layers, etc, the tubes don't add much to the equation. Wire, glass, and metal shards will go through anything. This is particularly true in the wet where the water both hides sharp things from view and lubes them as they penetrate your tires.

The Marathon Plus has outstanding resistance to small glass shards and wires as those get sucked up in the blue layer and never make it in to the tube. It is quite vulnerable to sidecuts, and sufficiently sharp metal can and will cut all the way through the blue layer. Likewise, sufficiently large pieces of glass will too. Roofing nails and screws can also penetrate all the way in (and even damage rims). I've had flats from all these causes on the MP. That said, it's as flat resistant as it gets. It is also the slowest tire I've ever ridden.

The Armadillo is the worst riding tire with the worst traction I've ever tried. It has decent resistance to sidecuts as well as sharps. It can absolutely be destroyed (i.e. tire is not repairable) by glass even it isn't particularly vulnerable. I find it virtually worthless against wires from tires as they seem to penetrate right in and are hard to get out.

The GS is like a better version of the 'dillo. It's not quite as flat resistant, but it rolls better. It has unimpressive resistance to sharp chips even if it is not especially vulnerable. Of the popular flat resistant ones, it is one of the better choices.

I ride flat resistant tires during the winter simply because ODOT throws down sharp chips everywhere for traction and I can't see other debris in the dark and the wet. Any tire I ride gets absolutely wrecked and is full of cuts and holes within a month. When it's dry and light and they get rid of some of the crap that's all over the roads, I switch to the much more fun 4000s which yields me fewer flats than any of the tires above. But it isn't because the 4000s is so resistant. It's all about conditions.
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Old 05-30-12, 02:14 PM
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I'm cursing myself, this I know.

I've only had one flat this year. I was pumping up a low rear tire mid ride and the presta valve shot out when I removed my pump. I've never had that happen before.
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Old 05-30-12, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticmotif View Post
I'm cursing myself, this I know.

I've only had one flat this year. I was pumping up a low rear tire mid ride and the presta valve shot out when I removed my pump. I've never had that happen before.
Are you using the stem nuts? If yes, then don't.

Also, you have screwed yourself by saying you only got one flat this year. Angering the flat tire gods always costs you.
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Originally Posted by RTDub View Post
I triple-dog dare you to roll in my 'hood. You can brag about your flat-free life, but until you ride a mile on my roads, statements like these are what are pointless.

Purchasing what amounts to the harsh ride of a wagon wheel to prevent my flats is not the solution. I am not sure there is one, aside from showing up at public council meetings only to be laughed at by those with more important issues. At this point my solution is to ride tire-friendly routes.

I carry four tubes and a patch kit as well as a six pack of Skabs.
Gatorskins are a nice riding tire.
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Old 05-31-12, 07:25 AM
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a lot of talk about flats caused by thorns, glass, metal shards, etc, and i've had a few of those but most of my flats have been on the underside of the tube. so i've tried filling up my tubes before every ride, different psi's and whatnot, but i've been having the same problems. also, i continually have to adjust the rim strip so that no part of the spoke holes are showing. finally yesterday i scrapped the "velox" rim tape and used some basic athletic tape that i could make a wider width with that covers a greater area of the rim. went for 20 miles flat free yesterday, hopefully today will be the same. before the adjustment i was flatting every other ride.

also... i use those q-tubes with replaceable valve stems, so i keep an extra one stolen off an old tube in my little patch kit, in case i get a little aggressive pumping up my tires.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
Yes, a piece of tire with the beads cut off will boot a large-ish cut. A tube is too thin unless the cut is very small. I've also used a piece of cardboard, and you could use anything firm enough to fill the hole.
+1. An extra layer of tube won't do the job if the tire carcass is slashed. I've had good luck using a large square of duct tape as a boot.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
+1. An extra layer of tube won't do the job if the tire carcass is slashed. I've had good luck using a large square of duct tape as a boot.
Actual tire boots work really well. And unlike many of the things that you need to improvise, they stick where you need 'em so they're really easy to get them to stay in place.

I'm not really a fan of using an extra layer of tube. In addition to only working on the smallest types of cuts, you need a knife to cut your old tube. May as well just unwrap a few rounds of electrical tape from your bars.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
+1. An extra layer of tube won't do the job if the tire carcass is slashed. I've had good luck using a large square of duct tape as a boot.
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I've had good luck using a large square of duct tape as a boot.
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