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Joe "Oblivious" Public - there is no hope!

Old 06-05-12, 10:31 AM
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Joe "Oblivious" Public - there is no hope!

I have to share w/ you what happened on the weekend ride i did with my son. We did the Harpeth River Ride here in Franklin and as always well supported and top notch even RC camera copters buzzing us. I'm getting over bronchitis (still coughing some) and we decided to just do the 20 miler. So coming in on Carothers north bound to cross 96; there were 5 police officers managing the intersection for the riders (like I said well supported) four police cars one at each intersection with lights flashing; one police officer at each approache to the intersection and one in the middle waving my son and me thorugh while the other four officers had hands up holding traffic. We start to go through the intersection and a van; from the left pushes the accelerator and pulls out to do a left turn right into my son and I, we pull hard all the way right. The police man literly jumps in front of the van pounding on his hood and he stops (Thank You Mr. Policeman). 5 policeman; 4 police cars and still Joe Oblivious Public is gonna run us down...there just is no hope! When you do ride; Ride defensivly my friends!
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I agree. A couple of weeks ago in Greenville watching the national championships, I watched a lady try to go down the wrong side of the road because the intersection was blocked off for the approaching peleton (PRO RACE HERE) and this lady ignores the cop and starts driving through, he runs over and pounds on her hood as well...and she starts arguing about how she only lives a few houses down....

I've never seen a cop fume so hard, he started walking towards the car and stared her down so hard she started creeping back...it was awesome but also sad to think that idiots that are SO FREAKING impatient are on the road. Another lady got out and started *****ing (keep in mind this race brings millions of dollars to the area each year) and here she is *****ing and moaning because she's in a hurry.

anybody that is in a huge hurry has done some poor planning if you can''t wait 5 minutes.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:00 AM
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The cop should have ticketed the guy right away, or at least give him a nasty 2 hours bad time at the side of the road just because he was just being an @ss.

Some drivers just really dont get that if they hit a guy in a lighter vehicle the other guy can get really bad injured or dead. And unless they experience the issue they won't understand.

I was a judge and i had to sentence somebody who ran over a cyclist i would just take his D/L suspended for 6 months, 1 month in jail and then 5 months riding a bike daily to community service just for him to know how it feels.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
The cop should have ticketed the guy right away, or at least give him a nasty 2 hours bad time at the side of the road just because he was just being an @ss.

Some drivers just really dont get that if they hit a guy in a lighter vehicle the other guy can get really bad injured or dead. And unless they experience the issue they won't understand.

I was a judge and i had to sentence somebody who ran over a cyclist i would just take his D/L suspended for 6 months, 1 month in jail and then 5 months riding a bike daily to community service just for him to know how it feels.
Unfortunatly I did not get to see the final aftermath of what the police did. I can tell you he was not happy with the way he was screaming and pounding on the side glass.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:06 AM
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Shoot, I've had cops at a well supported ride actually wave traffic into me. Always ride defensively. Even those who are watching for cyclists can overlook you sometimes.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:17 AM
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My favorite Oblivious Joe Public moment remains the volunteer who yelled at me to "slow down, buddy!" when I was going around a corner in the middle of the bike stage of a tri. Appreciate you volunteering, but I don't think I'll be doing that.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Echo View Post
Shoot, I've had cops at a well supported ride actually wave traffic into me. Always ride defensively. Even those who are watching for cyclists can overlook you sometimes.
I've had a cop (in Brenham, Texas) squeeze me off the road with his cruiser.
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Old 06-05-12, 11:49 AM
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Hell with the screaming and hood pounding. Hit 'em where it hurts - issue an expensive ticket.
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You have to ride like you are invisible.

Sad but true.

p.s. **** and/or move
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Wouldn't have occurred to me to be defensive in this situation, but I guess you have to keep your head on a pivot at all times.
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Had near the same thing happen to me in a triathlon a couple years ago. Lady in a minivan completely ignored the cop in the intersection directing traffic. I was already in the intersection when she came through so I had to slam on my brakes. The cop had to jump out of the way from the van. She never even slowed down. Boy was that cop mad. Hopefully he got her license plate number.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
My favorite Oblivious Joe Public moment remains the volunteer who yelled at me to "slow down, buddy!" when I was going around a corner in the middle of the bike stage of a tri. Appreciate you volunteering, but I don't think I'll be doing that.
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Old 06-05-12, 01:27 PM
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I was course marshall for my team's race series this year. We had closure signs, easy-up tents, pylons or haybales, and flaggers at every affected corner. But there's always some self-important jack wagon who thinks the road closure doesn't apply to him.
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Old 06-05-12, 01:47 PM
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Years in emergency services taught me that loads of people shut a portion of their brain off when surrounded by emergency personnel/vehicles, orange signs, excitement, and especially flashing lights. Seems the opposite would be true but I've seen the wackiest, no-brain actions when confronted with such impediments to their vehicular progress.

dimwit driver - "well, I just thought I could squeeze around and get out of yer way."
EMS - "Uh, by ignoring police/fire, rolling around my bus, through my scene, and nearly OVER my patient and my medics!?!?!?!"

Kinda reminds me of the deer-like dimwits who in a totally sober state run into an emergency vehicle or personnel because they are mesmerized by the pretty flashing lights.
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I cannot count how many Triathlons I have been in that at least 1 car has blown through cones, cops, barriers, etc. It happens almost every race except the NYC Tri.
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I cannot count how many Triathlons I have been in that at least 1 car has blown through cones, cops, barriers, etc. It happens almost every race except the NYC Tri.
one solution is to replace the cones with K-Rails.
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Years ago, on my evening commute, there was a major accident on the interstate that closed all but one lane. Some genius decided it would be a good idea to follow an ambulance up the shoulder to bypass the logjam this created. When he got to the scene of the accident, the State Trooper directing traffic firmly instructed him to move aside and await further instruction. I don't know how long he got to sit in this spot of honor while the other traffic filtered by, but he was there for the 5 or 10 minutes it took me to pass by.

I wonder if he got a special citation from the Trooper in recognition of his expoit.
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I learned something when I first started riding motorcycles yrs ago.. Ride like you are invisible, never assume someone sees you. If it means slowing down and being slightly more defensive at time, then so be it.

Glad in your case the officer was able to get to the van in time before it did in fact hit you
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Kinda reminds me of the deer-like dimwits who in a totally sober state run into an emergency vehicle or personnel because they are mesmerized by the pretty flashing lights.

Saw one of those the other day. Traffic light was out due to a power outage. So you'd think driver's would be more cautious. But someone managed to broadside a fire truck running full lights and siren.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
My favorite Oblivious Joe Public moment remains the volunteer who yelled at me to "slow down, buddy!" when I was going around a corner in the middle of the bike stage of a tri. Appreciate you volunteering, but I don't think I'll be doing that.
Ever consider that perhaps he was joking?
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred View Post
anybody that is in a huge hurry has done some poor planning if you can''t wait 5 minutes.
+1000.
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Heck, the pace car in a race took me out once. Blew both tires, brand new tubulars. The kicker was I was leading the race. I broke away and had a significant lead. Pace car had pulled off the course to pick someone up or something. When it pulled back on to the course they drifted right into me and over the curb i went. After the race they had no clue. Barely got an apology, they never saw me. Didnt even know what they had done. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
The cop should have ticketed the guy right away, or at least give him a nasty 2 hours bad time at the side of the road just because he was just being an @ss.

Some drivers just really dont get that if they hit a guy in a lighter vehicle the other guy can get really bad injured or dead. And unless they experience the issue they won't understand.
I was a judge and i had to sentence somebody who ran over a cyclist i would just take his D/L suspended for 6 months, 1 month in jail and then 5 months riding a bike daily to community service just for him to know how it feels.

You are being kind I think. It's not so much that they don't understand it's that they don't care. They only care about themselves and what they are doing or going.

The riding a bike as part of a community service order is a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
My favorite Oblivious Joe Public moment remains the volunteer who yelled at me to "slow down, buddy!" when I was going around a corner in the middle of the bike stage of a tri. Appreciate you volunteering, but I don't think I'll be doing that.
I was a volunteer at a sprint tri doing just that once. Oh, you could have blasted through at speed, but the thin coat of mud on the roadway would have made your crashing out of the race both very immediate and very spectacular. Although all riders had been warned and this was a corner about 200m into the event - and we were a bit more polite than to address it quite the way your volunteer did. Unless it's me you're talking about, then you misquoted me.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
You have to ride like you are invisible.

Sad but true.

p.s. **** and/or move
Word. I have read far too many stories recently in this and the Commuting forum about experienced cyclists taking the hit.
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