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Why so cheapskate/value-minded?

Old 06-11-12, 05:20 PM
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Why so cheapskate/value-minded?

Wondering why people seem to be so obsessed with whether they are getting a "good value" out of the purchase price of a bike... Is it really that important or difficult to get a bike that is serviceable for your needs for the absolute lowest amount of money? Most people are probably wasting more money on cable/satellite TV, eating out at restaurants, or not getting any exercise so they'll be needing maintenance meds when they get old and sick...

How many of you spent $1000 and felt like you got ripped off $100 for what is a $900 value bike or spent $2200 and got ripped off $200 for a $2000 value bike? I remember reading at least one story of how it took a YEAR of "research" for a forumite to buy his road bike. Really?!? A year of missed riding is worth a lot more than $200, $500, or maybe even $1000 to me -- if Eddy Merckx came down out of the Belgian skies and promised me $5000 if I didn't ride for the next year, I'd tell him to, "F-off, but I mean that in the kindest way, Mr. Merckx, no disrespect intended", not because I didn't believe he'd pay up, but because it's not worth it to me.

Don't get me wrong, I like to get fair value out of my purchase when I buy a bike. But I'm not trying to get the absolute "best value" bicycle which doesn't even make any sense to me... Just wondering...
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Originally Posted by milkbaby View Post
Don't get me wrong, I like to get fair value out of my purchase when I buy a bike. But I'm not trying to get the absolute "best value" bicycle which doesn't even make any sense to me... Just wondering...
This does not compute.
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Everyone wants to think they got a good value.

It's human nature.

The annoying threads, to me, are those that say "I just bought _____, did I get a good value??"

You already bought it, dope. Just ride it or use it.
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I paid $400 for my Pinarello, $60 for my Diamondback. I'm totally satisfied with both money outlays.
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i live in the usa and the economic here is awefull i dont want to waste money. plus i was raised to not waste money or anything
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Old 06-11-12, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by milkbaby View Post
Don't get me wrong, I like to get fair value out of my purchase when I buy a bike. But I'm not trying to get the absolute "best value" bicycle which doesn't even make any sense to me... Just wondering...
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This does not compute.
I don't want to pay $4000 for a $2000 bike. But I'm not worried whether a specific $4500 bike is a better value than a different $4000 bike; I'll buy whichever bike rides and looks the way I like.
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I think if you go to you-know-where, you can get 50% off MSRP.

Sounds like the "deal of the century!"
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Why NOT be cheapskate/value minded? To me it's just a basic sense of responsibility, not to mention self-respect.

It took me about a month of research to build my current bike, but I didn't miss any riding since I already had a value-minded bike (which would easily have been paid for by just the hypothetical $200 extra price you ask about).
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The hardest part for me is when I get a killer deal on something and don't buy enough of them. Like years ago I got two SDG BelAir saddles for $10 apiece. I still occasionally kick myself for not buying ten of them.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
The hardest part for me is when I get a killer deal on something and don't buy enough of them. Like years ago I got two SDG BelAir saddles for $10 apiece. I still occasionally kick myself for not buying ten of them.

True. I bought 6 GP4000s tires from PBK 2 years ago for $28 each. I should have bought more!!
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I can see the OPs point when it comes to CL bikes. If it's selling for $175 and is deemed to be worth only $125, I think it's worth the extra coin if you like the bike. If you're flipping, it's another matter of course.
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i even use a website to tell me when to but did it on my camera and a year latter still didnt find a beter price then we payed for this camera
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i even use a website to tell me when to but did it on my camera and a year latter still didnt find a beter price then we payed for this camera
Dude. Buy a keyboard or go the F away.
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Dude. Buy a keyboard or go the F away.
how about you go get a life and find something else to worry about you self centered *******.im typeing the best i can
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OP, I agree. I have pissed away a ton of green on cycling and love every minute of it. My wife mocks the fact that in three years of cycling I am on something like my seventh iteration of bikes. Some I have sold, some given to family members, some parts used to rebuild my family's vintage bikes. If I think it is worth it, I buy. I have two trainers in the basement, just to support friends when they come over. Now granted, I shop values, and buy when prices are good, but would have saved a ton if I stuck with some of the things I got early on.

I really don't care if someone thinks I got a good deal or a bad one. I have enjoyed the whole process. The U.S. is about buying things you don't need with money you don't have. I have the green, so I am only half right.
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Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
i live in the usa and the economic here is awefull i dont want to waste money. plus i was raised to not waste money or anything
I may be all wet here, but I keep thinking you must spend a fair amount on socks for your puppets.
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well im out of here ..id get banned soon anyways
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Bikes are expensive. Period. Even if your bike only costs $1000, your accessories will likely be $1000 or more once you're riding seriously, and just continue from there. Then if you get a replacement bike upgrade, you're talking like $3k+.

For an above average family income of $75k, that's a big chunk of money, like it or not.

I waste far more than my bike expenditures in money in various penalties here and there or errors, but I still consider my bike habit an expensive hobby.
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I remember reading at least one story of how it took a YEAR of "research" for a forumite to buy his road bike. Really?!?
That's where the fun in cycling lies for some people ... reading, researching, investigating, test riding, etc. etc.


Back in 2003/2004, it was approx. 7 months from the time I decided to get a long distance bicycle until the time it arrived ... I wanted to do a lot of reading, research, investigating etc. etc. That's not to say I didn't ride during that time. I had a decent bicycle to ride, but wanted something better, and I wanted to take my time in making that decision.

In 2010 it took me about 1 month to decide on a titanium bicycle, but I had in mind that I wanted a titanium bicycle for years before that, and of course I was riding my growing bicycle collection all those years.

Later in 2010, we borrowed a tandem to try, and then started researching tandems ... 6 months later we finally bought one.

And most recently, it was about a year ago that Rowan and I started thinking about touring bicycles. We finally got what we wanted a couple months ago.


We're still riding the bicycles we have while these decisions are being made, but it is nice to be able to take the time to do the reading, research, etc. and decide on exactly what we want.
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well im out of here ..id get banned soon anyways
Nah homes, you should stay.
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Like ya, I love riding my bike, but some folks gots to work to earn their bread, ya know? Not everyone here is a high-end hedge fund corporate atty shillbag.~
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Originally Posted by milkbaby View Post
I don't want to pay $4000 for a $2000 bike. But I'm not worried whether a specific $4500 bike is a better value than a different $4000 bike; I'll buy whichever bike rides and looks the way I like.
This is correct. This is because the $4500 is a better value to you. ie: you assign value to ride quality and beauty. The $4000 bike is not as good a value....but what if it were $3500? Micro econ 101.
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I agree with the OP. Most people don't think twice buying a new laptop every 2 years blowing one or two thousand dollars each time. For a bike that can be used for a very long time, heck a lifetime if cared for (unlike a laptop that lasts 3-4 years before obsolesence kicks in) folks keep thinking about it for weeks.
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Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
i live in the usa and the economic here is awefull



He's right you know. Our economic really is bad..........................
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Most people don't think twice buying a new laptop every 2 years blowing one or two thousand dollars each time. For a bike that can be used for a very long time, heck a lifetime if cared for (unlike a laptop that lasts 3-4 years before obsolesence kicks in) folks keep thinking about it for weeks.

I put thought and time into all my more expensive purchases ... bicycles, laptops, cameras, etc. It was about 7-8 months before I finally decided on a DSLR. And as for our new laptops, we had in mind that we would get them, or something like them, probably 6 months ago ... but we had to do a little bit of research first.

As I said in my first post, half the fun of making a purchase is doing the research first. Nothing wrong with that ... especially if we end up with something we're happy with.
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Don't get me wrong, I like to get fair value out of my purchase when I buy a bike. But I'm not trying to get the absolute "best value" bicycle which doesn't even make any sense to me... Just wondering...
Seriously, it's a game. Some people like to work up to the best they can afford, having the bike is part of the hobby. Others like to find the best they can have for the absolute least. It's not necessarily that they (we) can't afford the higher priced bikes - it's how we like to play it. Look at the guys who flip on CL, or the C&V folks. A lot of them are like that.

Someone mentioned computers. For me it's the same thing. I had a laser printer that was 25 years old before I let it die, and every computer I've owned for decades was one I assembled, generally for around $800 or less. I wouldn't dream of spending $5000 on bleeding edge technology desktop, nor for a bicycle only marginally better performing than the one I have. For certain mindsets, those types of purchases just don't make sense.
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