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bigfred 06-16-12 07:04 PM

Michelin Optimum Pro's, GP4Seasons, Maxxis Re-Fuse or ???
 
My new 585's require some tread. I'm looking for a good training and group ride tire that favors the following priorities:

1. Must be 25mm or 28mm
2. Grip and road feel
3. Puncture protection
4. Longevity
5. Price

Of late I've been riding mostly on Maxxis Re-fuses and liked them well enough. Very few punctions until tread was nearly worn away, good grip. I have some Vittoria Rubino Pro's which I hate. Not enought grip, wet or dry.

Recently worked on a friends bike that had the Optimum Pro's on it and they looked really good. Seemed light, flexible and run slighlty large compared to indicated size. How are they with regard to puncture resistance?

GP4S, seem to run true to narrow, so would probably go with 28mm. How do they compare to GP4000's and Gatorskins? I would be hoping for the handling and suppleness of 4000's but with slightly better puncture protection, without being as hard as Gatorskins.

Maxxis Re-fuses I'm plenty familiar with, but, if anyone has ridden them as well as either of the above, comparisons would be most welcome.

Is there some other great all around tire that I'm missing?

Dunbar 06-16-12 07:45 PM

Schwalbe Durano Plus, they run true to size and are very puncture resistant. Probikekit has them for $38 shipped US with the bicycling10 coupon code.

bigfred 06-17-12 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 14366138)
Schwalbe Durano Plus, they run true to size and are very puncture resistant. Probikekit has them for $38 shipped US with the bicycling10 coupon code.

And those are about 100 grams heavier than the aforementioned. Perhaps the standard Durano (non-plus) would be a better alternative or, Ultremo DD. I just haven't seen any and don't have any idea of how they would compare.

Pain 06-17-12 11:07 AM

GP 4seasons wear out just as quick as the 4000 and feel right inbetween the Gatorskin and 4000. For some reason GP4S are even more expensive.

I think the Michelin Krylion (now replaced by the Pro4 Endurance) is about as perfect as your going to find for those requirements. The 25mm run a little larger then Continental, measure about 26mm.

bigfred 06-17-12 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Pain (Post 14367876)
GP 4seasons wear out just as quick as the 4000 and feel right inbetween the Gatorskin and 4000. For some reason GP4S are even more expensive.

I think the Michelin Krylion (now replaced by the Pro4 Endurance) is about as perfect as your going to find for those requirements. The 25mm run a little larger then Continental, measure about 26mm.

I'm not overly enthusiastic about the Continentals. They're sort of a known standby.

Have you, by chance, had a opportunity to compare the Krylion/Pro4 Endurance to the Optimum Pro's?

Pain 06-17-12 10:45 PM

Never tried the Optimum Pros. I use a Pro Race on the front for grip/feel and Krylion on the rear for wear, which sounds just like the description for Optimums except my tires are easier to find on sale.


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