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uncrx2003 06-23-12 09:32 PM

Anyone here packin' while on a ride?
 
There have been a few incidents around here that make me consider getting a conceal permit. Several instances where drivers purposely intimidate cyclists on the road and it could have a recipe for a disaster. Although, the chance of me ever using it is slim to none. I think I feel safer just having it with me. If you do carry one, how/what do you use to carry it?

BillyD 06-23-12 09:33 PM

Here we go. :rolleyes:

B. Carfree 06-23-12 09:34 PM

The only heat I pack is a spare chemical hand warmer. I'm afraid I'd use a gun if I brought one and I'm just not ready to deal with that. (There goes my internet tough-guy reputation.)

Karcas 06-23-12 09:46 PM

I haven't carried on the bike yet. I have thought about getting a http://zipp.com/accessories/zipp-speed-box/ (or something similar) to carry a little .380 in.

I do carry pepper spray though. Stumbled across this http://www.sabrered.com/servlet/the-...r-Spray/Detail (not what I use so I have no opinion on it)

Velo Vol 06-23-12 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 14396825)
Here we go. :)

Fixed.

Machka 06-23-12 09:53 PM

I pack lots of things on my rides. I feel better and safer if I carry a pump, spare tube, and tire levers so I can remedy a flat tire situation and keep riding. With the variable weather I encounter, I carry a rain and/or wind jacket, and sometimes both. They help keep me warm, dry, safe, and healthy. When I cycle in low visibility situation, I use hi-vis clothing and reflective safety gear so I can be seen.

Get yourself a good hi-vis yellow jacket ... it's amazing how far away they can be spotted, and they pack down quite small. They can also be really light. No permits required to pack one. :)

Karcas 06-23-12 09:56 PM

While I admit I know what you are talking about. I agree with others (at least I think it's what they are getting at) that "packin'" isn't really a great way to put it. If I met a fellow permit holder and he referred to himself as someone who "packs" or is "packin heat" I would instantly think he is a ******.

Machka 06-23-12 10:04 PM

I also pack sunscreen and various clothing items to protect me from sun damage (i.e. skin cancer). In Australia it seems like every other person has been in for skin cancer surgery, so I try to take some protective measures to make me feel a little bit safer, especially on long rides.

I use Neutrogena's Dry Touch 30spf (higher ratings aren't really necessary). A little dab goes a long way, and it goes on dry.

I also wear long sleeves in the morning when I'm on an all-day ride. I have discovered I tend to burn between 10 am and noon, more than any other time of day.

I use sunglasses and a helmet with a visor to provide some extra shade and protection to my face.

JustinNY 06-23-12 10:05 PM

Yes, but I also carry while not riding as well

Its no different than wearing a helmet, you hope you never have to test its ability to save your life, but you'll be glad you have it if you need it.

Karcas 06-23-12 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by JustinNY (Post 14396918)
Yes, but I also carry while not riding as well

Its no different than wearing a helmet, you hope you never have to test its ability to save your life, but you'll be glad you have it if you need it.

I say the same thing...just worded a bit differently . "I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it." :)

uncrx2003 06-23-12 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 14396887)
I pack lots of things on my rides. I feel better and safer if I carry a pump, spare tube, and tire levers so I can remedy a flat tire situation and keep riding. With the variable weather I encounter, I carry a rain and/or wind jacket, and sometimes both. They help keep me warm, dry, safe, and healthy. When I cycle in low visibility situation, I use hi-vis clothing and reflective safety gear so I can be seen.

Get yourself a good hi-vis yellow jacket ... it's amazing how far away they can be spotted, and they pack down quite small. They can also be really light. No permits required to pack one. :)

My good friend got run down on purpose the other day. This is not about visibility. I wear bright clothing almost every time I'm riding. I do agree that 99% of the drivers out there are good people. It's the 1% that are out there looking for reason to hurt someone. Those are the ones I worry about. I've been extremely lucky since I started riding 3 yrs ago as I have not dealt with any idiots on the road but I not blind to the fact that many people reported their encounters on the local forum.

abstractform20 06-23-12 10:12 PM

im packin 3.7 inches of heat, everyday.

stay back fellas...ladies only.








everyone loves my mini-pump.

tagaproject6 06-23-12 10:12 PM

Oh yeah!!!

:popcorn:
:deadhorse:
:trainwreck:

Machka 06-23-12 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by JustinNY (Post 14396918)
Its no different than wearing a helmet, you hope you never have to test its ability to save your life, but you'll be glad you have it if you need it.

My helmet may save my life (and may have done in a crash back in 2007), but I rather doubt that my helmet would take another person's life. That would be one fluke accident if it did.

Machka 06-23-12 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by uncrx2003 (Post 14396933)
My good friend got run down on purpose the other day. This is not about visibility. I wear bright clothing almost every time I'm riding. I do agree that 99% of the drivers out there are good people. It's the 1% that are out there looking for reason to hurt someone. Those are the ones I worry about. I've been extremely lucky since I started riding 3 yrs ago as I have not dealt with any idiots on the road but I not blind to the fact that many people reported their encounters on the local forum.

And what are you going to do ... start shooting drivers when they make mistakes? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Karcas 06-23-12 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by uncrx2003 (Post 14396933)
My good friend got run down on purpose the other day. This is not about visibility. I wear bright clothing almost every time I'm riding. I do agree that 99% of the drivers out there are good people. It's the 1% that are out there looking for reason to hurt someone. Those are the ones I worry about. I've been extremely lucky since I started riding 3 yrs ago as I have not dealt with any idiots on the road but I not blind to the fact that many people reported their encounters on the local forum.

1% is a small number.....and a gross exaggeration. 1% of people who drive are not "looking for a reason to hurt someone".

SlimRider 06-23-12 10:19 PM

Just always remember:

People who carry handguns, are more apt to take on characteristics that may not be natural to them. They will quite often be more proned to act in a particular manner that might tend to invite discord or confrontation, rather than to avoid such a situation. For some reason when armed, they seem to attract more trouble than when unarmed.

To arm yourself habitually while performing a routine task is just asking for trouble in my opinion. If you feel that you must arm yourself, just to perform daily operations, then it might be time to modify your routine.


OTOH, whenever a criminal is shot in the act of commiting a crime involving violence, then the shooting should always be ruled justifiable. That's regardless as to who does the shooting, civilian or the authorities.

DS113 06-23-12 10:20 PM

I can understand the desire to carry if a driver stops their car and walks over to confront you, but in the case of a driver trying to run you off the road are you proposing drawing while still riding and then taking aim and firing at a still moving car? If so, video please.

McChinken 06-23-12 10:22 PM

never caught without one.

SlimRider 06-23-12 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Mc*****en (Post 14396965)
never caught without one.

If ever you do get "caught", just make certain that it's legal and that you have a concealed carry permit.

Karcas 06-23-12 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by SlimRider (Post 14396956)
Just always remember:

People who carry handguns, are more apt to take on characteristics that may not be natural to them. They will quite often be more proned to act in a particular manner that might tend to invite discord or confrontation, rather than to avoid such a situation. For some reason when armed, they seem to attract more trouble than when unarmed.

To arm yourself habitually while performing a routine task is just asking for trouble in my opinion. If you feel that you must arm yourself, just to perform daily operations, then it might be time to modify your routine.


OTOH, whenever a criminal is shot in the act of commiting a crime involving violence, then the shooting should always be ruled justifiable. That's regardless as to who does the shooting, civilian or the authorities.

I completely disagree. While I'm sure that there are those who feel macho while carrying, everyone I know that carries is always very polite. I know that for me, when I carry I am much more polite...especially while driving (to avoid any road ragers).

An armed society is a polite society

uncrx2003 06-23-12 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Machka (Post 14396945)
And what are you going to do ... start shooting drivers when they make mistakes? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think purposely hitting someone with a car is assaulting with a deadly weapon. Am I wrong? I really don't find any humor in it when this happens, do you? The guy almost hit my buddy then get out of his car to tell him that he was going to hit him next time. Thankfully, it didn't escalate beyond that. We are not talking about true accidents. Those are going to happen.

BTW, I'd never carry a gun to be "macho"

Karcas 06-23-12 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by uncrx2003 (Post 14396975)
I think purposely hitting someone with a car is assaulting with a deadly weapon. Am I wrong? I really don't find any humor in it when this happens, do you? We are not talking about true accidents. Those are going to happen.

While it may be classified as assault with a deadly weapon, what would you consider shooting at a fleeing car to be? I would call that reckless endangerment or something along those lines.
Crap like that happens in movies. In real life, real people get hurt by stray bullets. Also, who is to say that you shoot at that driver, and he/she calls the cops and says you shot at them. Do you have the money for that legal battle of he said she said?

Your best, and safest bet in a situation like that is to focus on make, model, and license plate number. That is.. if you are ok.

B. Carfree 06-23-12 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Karcas (Post 14396988)
While it may be classified as assault with a deadly weapon, what would you consider shooting at a fleeing car to be? I would call that reckless endangerment or something along those lines.

Your best, and safest bet in a situation like that is to focus on make, model, and license plate number. That is.. if you are ok.

Hmm, that probably won't get any response from law enforcement. However, you may get lucky if you mount a few video cameras and actually collect some evidence of the assault.

uncrx2003 06-23-12 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Karcas (Post 14396988)
While it may be classified as assault with a deadly weapon, what would you consider shooting at a fleeing car to be? I would call that reckless endangerment or something along those lines.

Your best, and safest bet in a situation like that is to focus on make, model, and license plate number. That is.. if you are ok.

Never said I'd just randomly shooting at cars. My example would the incident I stated above. If that guy were to come out of his car and attack me, I would not hesitate to use it.


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