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Did I buy wrong bike?

Old 06-27-12, 09:21 AM
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Did I buy wrong bike?

I was trying to chose between a 2012 Scott Comp CR1 with Tiagra componets and a 2010 Felt F5 with 105 componets. Both were new and both full carbon. I went with the Scott because it was $400 cheaper. I was also looking at a 2012 Scott with an aluminum frame with 105 componets for $400 less than the CR1, but I really wanted a Carbon.

I went on my first ride for only 15 miles and it sounds like my chain/derailer is crackling and grinding in pretty much all gears. I am calling the store today to have them fix it, but is this how Tiagra componets are going to be? Should I have spent the extra money and bought the felt?

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Yep...shoulda hada gone Felt.
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105 is better and new and improved in 2011. I would gone with 105 but Tiagra is fine and it probably just needs adjustment. The cables tend to stretch and need adjustment after a few weeks.
Did you have this problem on day one?
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crackling and grinding
This isn't the "norm" on even the least expensive entry level bikes. Tiagra components should be smooth and quiet, so something is wrong. Hopefully it's just a misadjustment and can be easily fixed. Either of the bikes you mentioned should be a joy to ride so, No, you didn't pick the "wrong" one.
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The bike should give the bike a good once over when you take in back in.

It should be fine after that.
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Tiagra takes a lot of grief on these forums, but the truth is that any component group will suck if it is badly adjusted. Every component group can be made to run virtually silently if you take some time setting it up and keep it clean.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
The bike should give the bike a good once over when you take in back in.

It should be fine after that.
The question is why they did not go over it at the time of sale? Wonder if he got it at a LBS?
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Your bike selection was fine. Get a hold of yourself...

Take a portion of the $400 that you saved and purchase:

- a bike stand
- a set of metric allen wrenches
- some good degreaser
- high quality chain lubricant of your choice
- a spoke wrench
- etc.


Put the bike up on a stand and observe why the chain is misaligned. It's likely that you'll have to back out your rear derailleur barrel adjuster a bit (counterclockwise, maybe a 1/4 turn to start) and see how that does.

Have fun!
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Originally Posted by drew3623
I was trying to chose between a 2012 Scott Comp CR1 with Tiagra componets and a 2010 Felt F5 with 105 componets. Both were new and both full carbon. I went with the Scott because it was $400 cheaper. I was also looking at a 2012 Scott with an aluminum frame with 105 componets for $400 less than the CR1, but I really wanted a Carbon.

I went on my first ride for only 15 miles and it sounds like my chain/derailer is crackling and grinding in pretty much all gears. I am calling the store today to have them fix it, but is this how Tiagra componets are going to be? Should I have spent the extra money and bought the felt?

Thanks!
Your bike needs to be adjusted. The 10 speed Tiagra is the old 5600 105. I ride a Roubaix SL2 that has Tiagra parts in the drivetrain and no issues. Smooth as silk.
Don't believe the Tiagra bashers (whom I am sure will be on this thread in 5 seconds flat, pushing out 1000W) on this forum. I have another bike with the 9 speed Tiagra and
no issues over thousands of miles on that one either. The only change to both bikes is Ultegra crankset.
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Originally Posted by KevinF
Tiagra takes a lot of grief on these forums, but the truth is that any component group will suck if it is badly adjusted. Every component group can be made to run virtually silently if you take some time setting it up and keep it clean.
+1 on this.
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Originally Posted by KevinF
Tiagra takes a lot of grief on these forums, but the truth is that any component group will suck if it is badly adjusted. Every component group can be made to run virtually silently if you take some time setting it up and keep it clean.
This....on a weekday morning ride the other day I ended up riding for about 10miles with a fellow cyclist that rode a Venge with 2012 SRAM Red. His drivetrain was super noise and he was making jokes of how he spent close to $2K on that groupset and my 5700 105 was smooth as butter. Probably just needs an adjustment, it should work very nicely.
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Do your consumer research, then always buy the best quality you can afford in everything. That is one of the timeless lessons I learnt by observing my father.

If Tiagra was the best you could afford, then no sweat. If however you could have afforded 105, then shoulda bought that. It is too late for anything now, other than taking the bike back to the shop and having them fine-tune your Tiagra.
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Do your consumer research, then always buy the best quality you can afford in everything.
Really? What if you can afford Super Record, but you only plan on riding 10-20 miles rides, and only once or twice a month in the summer months?

How about buy reasonable quality that offers you the best value, consistent with your budget, intended use, and priorities?
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To me if the Scott frame gave you the best ride I would say yeah you did good. The components can be upgraded over time as you see fit or they wear out.

If the Felt had a better ride and you bought the Scott to save money? Not Good.
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Thanks for the replies.
I did buy from a LBS. I just called him and said to bring it in that it just needs adjustments.

As far as budget goes for the bike- My wife wasnt too happy with me spending that much money right now. So I had to choose a) aluminum Scott and she is not too pissed, or b) Scott Comp CR1 and she is pissed, or c) Felt and I get divorced... well she brings in the money in the relationship so I went with b. lol

My bike also came with free Tune ups for life and the I dont think the Felt did (im not too tech savy). The Scott dealer is 1 mile from home, the Felt is 20mi. I am not racing this bike either, just riding for fitness and some small tris with possbily my second IM in a couple of years.

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You did fine...and the bike will be fine after a return trip to the LBS for a quick adjustment. Nice that it is only a mile away.
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Originally Posted by drew3623
My wife wasnt too happy with me spending that much money right now. So I had to choose a) aluminum Scott and she is not too pissed, or b) Scott Comp CR1 and she is pissed, or c) Felt and I get divorced... well she brings in the money in the relationship so I went with b. lol
Yes, you made the wrong decision. You should have gone with the Felt. Two words - spousal support...
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Considering the price, that saved $400.00 by going aluminum with 105 group would have been my choice. I do need a bike stand pretty soon here.
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Ok. My wife dropped my bike off at LBS and they said that it was out of adjustment. He said the cable may have stretch out, but its fixed now and rides and sounds smooth. Thats good news!
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Originally Posted by drew3623
As far as budget goes for the bike- My wife wasnt too happy with me spending that much money right now. So I had to choose a) aluminum Scott and she is not too pissed, or b) Scott Comp CR1 and she is pissed, or c) Felt and I get divorced... well she brings in the money in the relationship so I went with b. lol
If your bike were titanium, you wouldn't have these silly problems. If your bike were titanium, it would magically self-adjust, and your drive train would be quieter than last week's roadkill. Heck, if Chuck Norris had a road bike, it would definitely be titanium. I would tell you to be like Chuck Norris, and get a titanium bike instead, but Chuck Norris doesn't like to be imitated, and you really don't want to piss Chuck Norris off. Or your wife for that matter.
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I have a bike with a Tiagra 9-speed drivetrain and it has been quiet, smooth and durable for 4 years with over 8000 miles on it. Tiagra is heavier than the other Shimano gruppos but is just as durable if not more so than the higher boutique level group sets. Just get it adjusted at a reputable bike shop and it should be fine.

The truth is that cyclists tend to over-the-top elitist about components and brands when there is little cause to be. Even guys that ride 10 miles every other weekend will swear he must have race level components.
Unless you are a serious competitor you probably won't even notice the difference between one level difference gruppos. Tiagra vs. DuraAce yeah.. vs. 105 not really so much.
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Research after the purchase??? Really???
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It is a simple adjustment. Buy a book like Leonard Zinn's Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance and/or check out the instructional articles at parktool.com which will save you a lot of time and grief in the long run. Many things are easily adjustable at home with minimal tools.
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Originally Posted by drew3623
Ok. My wife dropped my bike off at LBS and they said that it was out of adjustment. He said the cable may have stretch out, but its fixed now and rides and sounds smooth. Thats good news!

Nice.


Wait, your wife brings home the bacon and also take care of dropping the bike off in the LBS? What a life ...
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Originally Posted by milkbaby
It is a simple adjustment. Buy a book like Leonard Zinn's Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance and/or check out the instructional articles at parktool.com which will save you a lot of time and grief in the long run. Many things are easily adjustable at home with minimal tools.
He bought the bike from a LBS two miles from his home with life time adjustments. Try reading before giving your simple uninformed answer.
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