Want to replace a few things, thinking of just upgrading the whole group, worth it?
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Want to replace a few things, thinking of just upgrading the whole group, worth it?
I have shimano 105 9speed 5500 group on a 2007 trek 1500. I love the frame and have the fit dialed in near perfectly.
But Im approaching some maintenance needs and want to change out some things and thinking of just replacing the group. For starters, its got a 53/39 crank which I would like to swap out for a compact. Its also got a 12-25 9speed cassette which I would like to swap out for an 11-28. The chain and cables will also need replacing. The shifters and derailleurs work well, but the hoods have been torn up by the previous owner and they're all scuffed up and missing the flight deck caps. They work fine, but are a bit unsightly.
Anyway, it seems that my options are to throw a few hundreds dollars at some maintenance and upgrades, or I can get a brand new 5700 105 group on ebay for $639 and basically overhaul the entire drivetrain.
I may also be able to sell the old the group and offset the cost by $100 or so.
N+1 is not an option right now. What would BF do?
But Im approaching some maintenance needs and want to change out some things and thinking of just replacing the group. For starters, its got a 53/39 crank which I would like to swap out for a compact. Its also got a 12-25 9speed cassette which I would like to swap out for an 11-28. The chain and cables will also need replacing. The shifters and derailleurs work well, but the hoods have been torn up by the previous owner and they're all scuffed up and missing the flight deck caps. They work fine, but are a bit unsightly.
Anyway, it seems that my options are to throw a few hundreds dollars at some maintenance and upgrades, or I can get a brand new 5700 105 group on ebay for $639 and basically overhaul the entire drivetrain.
I may also be able to sell the old the group and offset the cost by $100 or so.
N+1 is not an option right now. What would BF do?
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I just went through that exact same decision. Ende up getting a whole new group set. Don't know if it was "worth it" but I'm happy.
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Replace the whole goup, you'll be happier.
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Wow, everyone but me is being nice.
Buy a groupset, but take the time to look at other comparable groups from other manufacturers. I actually went the Campy Centaur group, but with Veloce shifters, Miche cassette, and KMC chain, and the whole thing was under $500 from England. Required different wheels, but I am thrilled with the change. Make sure you try SRAM doubletap too, to see how you like that vs. Shimano, and then there is no wheel issue.
Buy a groupset, but take the time to look at other comparable groups from other manufacturers. I actually went the Campy Centaur group, but with Veloce shifters, Miche cassette, and KMC chain, and the whole thing was under $500 from England. Required different wheels, but I am thrilled with the change. Make sure you try SRAM doubletap too, to see how you like that vs. Shimano, and then there is no wheel issue.
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Tagaproject6, the bike I built was a Cinelli Xperience. Just noticed yours in your sig. What a fun ride.
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Wow, everyone but me is being nice.
Buy a groupset, but take the time to look at other comparable groups from other manufacturers. I actually went the Campy Centaur group, but with Veloce shifters, Miche cassette, and KMC chain, and the whole thing was under $500 from England. Required different wheels, but I am thrilled with the change. Make sure you try SRAM doubletap too, to see how you like that vs. Shimano, and then there is no wheel issue.
Buy a groupset, but take the time to look at other comparable groups from other manufacturers. I actually went the Campy Centaur group, but with Veloce shifters, Miche cassette, and KMC chain, and the whole thing was under $500 from England. Required different wheels, but I am thrilled with the change. Make sure you try SRAM doubletap too, to see how you like that vs. Shimano, and then there is no wheel issue.
It seems like people are generally thrilled with there changeover to SRAM from Shimano, but one underlying complaint I read is that Shimano has much smoother and quieter shifting than SRAM. This is one of the things I love about my current group. With the exception of going from the big 53 ring to the 39 ring, every shift is dead quiet.
How does the campy mechanism compare to Sram and Shimano? Does the brake lever pivot or just the shifter?
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I actually have been looking at SRAM rival. What I find a bit frustrating is that I cannot seem to find a video that demonstrates the double tap method. Having only used Shimano, I cannot wrap my head around the fact that you press a lever beyond the upshift point to get to the downshift point.
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I don't have SRAM, but here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIOqabbTcCM#t=04m30s
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Lots of people talk about Shimano being buttery smooth and quieter than SRAM or Campy. That has not been my experience. For me, SRAM and Campy give you a very positive feeling shift, a bang and your there kind of thing. The Campagnolo stuff shifts great under load.
On a SRAM vs Shimano thing, my flat bar bike is all SRAM X9, and it is quiet and smooth shifting. I owned a bike with 105 for about 30 days, and it was tuned and worked fine, but it was not as quiet or snappy shifting as the X9. Many people talk about SRAM chains and cassettes being the loudest part of the system, and I can't say whether that is true or not.
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or save yourself tons of dough and just fix what you have. a, dont bother with a compact yet larger cassette, you are reinventing the wheel. b, cables and housing are cheap. c, here is a link to the faceplate for your shifters. 11 bucks. the lbs may have the hoods also but you can get those from universal cycles too. shop around and you should be able to get all the mechanicals up and running great for under 150 bucks. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=31583
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I just orderd a Campagnolo Centaur groupset + a Khamsin wheelset from Ribble, yesterday. Cost about $654...depending on the Sterling to US rate. We'll see how long it takes to get here.
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how is this possible? The group alone is listed for 460GBP and the current rate is 1.55 last i checked
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full rival might be worth doing over apex, maybe.
apex is definitely worth doing over 105. assuming you like the shifting and shape of the hoods. look at the prices of used apex vs 5700 105 and you get some idea about the market's perceived value.
apex is definitely worth doing over 105. assuming you like the shifting and shape of the hoods. look at the prices of used apex vs 5700 105 and you get some idea about the market's perceived value.
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Did you order wheels and parts on same order? Wheels are subject to tariff, 5.5% or 11% depending on what you look at, parts are 0%. I was looking at Scirroco wheels when I got my stuff, but was nervous tariff would be applied to all (not that that would be bad, still way cheaper than stateside parts)
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This. Their piecemeal prices stack up to almost identical to group, at least with Campagnolo, better if they are doing 25% off on parts. If you sub in Miche cassette and KMC chain, you can knock $60-100 off any group. I went with Veloce shifters because I wanted silver. Bike as fashion accessory. Whole thing was between $400-500.
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Did you order wheels and parts on same order? Wheels are subject to tariff, 5.5% or 11% depending on what you look at, parts are 0%. I was looking at Scirroco wheels when I got my stuff, but was nervous tariff would be applied to all (not that that would be bad, still way cheaper than stateside parts)
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Cool. Thanks. I have ordered many parts from them without issue, but never tried wheels, frames, or bikes. Paranoia mainly.
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C11 shifters will shift Shimano 9 drivetrains perfectly. Get some Athenas from Ribble for ~$160. If you want a bigger gear range put a new 12-28 or 11-28 S9 cassette on, and a new chain. That's all I would do.